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    Euroarms breech help.

    I have a Euroarms Whitworth. Ever since I bought the gun used it grab the patch near the bottom of the bore.Ok ,so it did it again;only this time I could not even tap the rod out with a hammer. Broke the jag off the rod.
    So I pulled the breech plug out. There is some kind of plug in front of the breech plug. Anyone have experience with this set up?

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    Bob,

    I am aware of some kind of issue in the breech of my Whitworth, too. I am very interested in any info that anyone can provide.

    Would you be able to email me any photos that you may have of your breech in the unbreeched condition? jh44ny (@) Verizon.net

    Thanks for the post.

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    Hallo!

    I may be wrong, but... IIRC-
    Euroarms uses a weird odd double breech/patent breech set up:



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    Looks like the engineer that designed this was also an experienced plumber.
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    Yeppers.......the same thing happened to me twenty odd years ago. After finding the schematics and not wanting to start trying to get all of that apart......I poured powder into the clean out and shot the jag out. Took the next jag and turned it down a bit.
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    Not unique to Whitworth.

    Bob Hoyt found the same system when he sleeved my Euroarms Mississippi.
    He was still able to line my barrel so your problem might be blamed on mass production. Poor execution instead of poor design.
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    I had the same problem with a PH Volunteer Rifle I owned. I couldn't shoot it out, and no amount of air pressure worked. I ended up taking it to a gunsmith, who eventually heated up the breech to burn the patch away to get the jag out. I had a buddy make a special jag to clean the patented breech. The head was small enough to get into the breech, but it necked way down to prevent the patch from jamming.
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    Wondering if patches are being grabbed how many threads are exposed; how thin is the breach area now that the breach and barrel are not properly joined, the area of highest pressure; wondering if smouldering residue does not hide in this area and if the area will not rust and carode over time since exposed threads cannot be cleaned out.
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    Curt, thank you for the photo, most enlightening!
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