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    Front sight question original model 1842

    I have an original 1842 that I'm using for smoothbore. As the wood has dried somewhat in the past 160 years, the front band has a little slop to it, problematic as it means the front sight on the band moves as well. I've noticed that this is minimized/eliminated, when the ramrod is in place. I know there is a difficult armory fix for the band play, involving a dicey shallow groove in the barrel and a pin brazed onto the band. I have considered glass bedding, but don't want to mess with an original stock in fair condition. So my question is this: Can I leave the original steel ramrod in the ramrod channel while competing, using my replacement brass ramrod for loading? Steel ramrod would not leave the channel, and the brass ramrod would be rested on my bayonet as usual. Could not find this addressed in the skirmish rules. Just wondering if this is an option. Thanks, Jon Faucher
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    Sounds like a plan to me.
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    Jon,

    I found this in the N-SSA's Skirmishers Handbook.

    Most skirmishers stick a bayonet or large knife into the ground at their feet and lean the
    ramrod against it during competition. You may do this, or you may hold the ramrod in
    your hand. You may
    not return the ramrod to the channel beneath the barrel until after
    you have fired your last shot for that event or relay.


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    Front band

    I had a windage problem with my rifled '42. Through trial and error I established the correct position of the front band and used thin wood shims between the stock and band to keep it there. Downside; you can't remove the barrel for cleaning.

    Duane

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    Dear Mr. Miller unfortunatly you have an outdated copy of the Skirmisher's Handbook. As per rule 25.2 (d) which states: If the rammer is returned to the piece, it should be pulled down by the little finger, keeping the hand out of the line of fire. This does allow a competitor to return the rammrod to the channel during competition. FYI the publications commitee is currentiy reviewing and rewriting a new version.


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    Duane, You can place epoxy between stock and band just make sure you have release agent on band to remove it. Just like glass embedding barrel to make it a tight fit. Then you can remove band for cleaning and put it back in the same place. Rich

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    I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow add material, like an epoxy, to the inside of the barrel band itself rather than the wood stock.

    Perhaps if you wrapped the stock with a single layer of Saran Wrap like plastic and then put some epoxy on the inside of the barrel band and fitted it in place?

    Steve

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    I would try to figure out how much space has be taken up to make the band tight. Then get a piece of brass from the hardware store ( Ace sells brass strips that are all different thickness ) cut it to fit the width of the band. Then use Locktight Black Max to fasten it to the band or solder it.
    My two cents worth.

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    Paper serves as a very good shim between the barrel and barrel channel.
    Paper can be bought in various thicknesses and even acid free.
    Once you know how much shim stock you need to tighten up the band in question... then you can see about glass bedding that area. (perhaps, even with the paper as a shim?)
    Suggestion... be sure to install the ramrod while checking your shim thickness to make sure everything is as tight as you believe it should be.
    As an alternative you may just leave the ramrod in place and use another rod to load the gun?
    Just a thought and may help save you a lot of work.

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    That was his original plan.
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