Die stuck in lyman 4500

[ian45662]

I seem to have a die stuck in my lyman 4500 luberesizer. Its a 571 die if that helps

[DAVE FRANCE]

I have a 450, so I'll assume it is the same.

The normal way you are supposed to get the die out is to seat a bullet in the die, remove the nut that fits at the top of the die. Put the wrench that comes with the lubrisizer under the bottom of the punch that raises the bullet. Then pull the handle up so the u-shaped part of the linkage pushes the punch up, and that should push the die out.

If that doesn't work, place a bullet that is large enough to not go through under the die at the top of the bottom punch, and raise the handle to cause the punch to rise and push the bullet up.

Sounds complicated. In simple terms. Put something (a bullet) under the die, and do what you have to to be able to get the bottom punch to push up on the bullet. Then the bullet will push the die up.

Bon Chance!

David

[ian45662]

When I say its stuck I mean its STUCK. I cant seem to get it out.

[Muley Gil]

Put a little heat on it.

Don't catch the bench on fire though!!

[DAVE FRANCE]

Ian,

I underestimated your problem. Perhaps spraying it with one of the penetrating oils will help.

Call Lyman. You probably aren't the first person this problem has happened to.

If you remove the linkage that is supposed to push it up, and put it upside down, you can put a wooden dowel (larger than the hole through the die) against the die, and strike the dowel with a hammer to push it out.

Good luck!

David

[ian45662]

The outside of the die is almost the same size as the hole in the bottom of the press. Every thing I put in there would just go right through after a little bit of pressure. I ended up taking the ram off and put the thing on a vise. I heated up the compartment that holds the die in-place and then with a small flat head screw driver I drove a wedge in between the press and the die. After a few hits it came out but I was starting to get really nervous lol. Thank you for all your replies.

[DAVE FRANCE]

Glad you got it done.

One of the things that can cause a problem with these sizers is trying to size too much off a bullet. Especially if the bullet is hard lead. I broke a Lyman 450 sizer once by using it to size off too much over a period of years.

I try not to size off more than 1/1000 th from the bullet, but sometimes you have to.

I think the 4500 is stronger than the 450. I wish I had a lubrisizer that was faster but still did the same functions as the Lyman and RCBs sizers (sizing and lubricating simultaneously in the same die). It would be nice to have one that the operator could feed bullets in easier without each bullet being handled individually.

Does anybody sell something like that?

David

[pastore]

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Does anybody sell something like that?

David

Magma produces the old Star lubrisizer. Not cheap but fast and good.

[ian45662]

Not cheap is right but if you shoot 15 or 20 thousand rounds out of your musket per year then it may be worth it

[DAVE FRANCE]

Dear Mr Ian and Mr Pastore,

I looked at the Star machine on the internet, but if you don't mind would you describe more about how it works and how it saves time? I assume since it has been around for a long time, it is reliable.

The only part of hand loading I don't like is sizing and lubricating. It is so boring!

Thanks,

David