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    1851 Cadet SAC question

    Question for the SAC. Are there any modified (shortened) versions of the 1851 Cadet smoothbores that are authorized / approved? (I'm thinking along the lines of the M1842 & the CS Macon alterations / modification to 30", 34" or 36".)
    If so, can I get a copy of the inspection sheet for it?
    If not, can anyone recommend a good & talented stock repairer or source for a replacement stock?
    Mine has a few chips & chunks missing Around the lock & tang, but is "duffle cut" under the mid-band and is missing about 4.5" off of the muzzle end.

    Thanks in advance,
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    Mr. McAlister - Although there are known shortened versions of the M-1851 Cadet, none of these have been approved for use in the N-SSA. The reason for this is that in the N-SSA Rules it is spelled out quite specifically that for any arm to be considered for use it the N-SSA must be accompanied by original primary documentation showing that a minimum of 100 such arms were made for use in the Civil War. One of our late Small Arms Committee members and I studied these for quite a few years, but we were not able to provide the minimum numbers required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Holland View Post
    Mr. McAlister - Although there are known shortened versions of the M-1851 Cadet, none of these have been approved for use in the N-SSA. The reason for this is that in the N-SSA Rules it is spelled out quite specifically that for any arm to be considered for use it the N-SSA must be accompanied by original primary documentation showing that a minimum of 100 such arms were made for use in the Civil War. One of our late Small Arms Committee members and I studied these for quite a few years, but we were not able to provide the minimum numbers required.
    Thanks, Mr Holland! That is exactly what I needed to know!
    Does anyone have a recomendation for someone who could repair (and lengthen) or replace a Cadet stock?
    Thanks to all!

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    Mr. Jim Parker, of Calvary Longrifles, is one of the best. His number is (205) 680-9219. Google Calvarylongrifles (not CAVALRY) and look at some of his work. His shop is just north of Birmingham, an hour from Brierfield State Park. Hope this helps. jh

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    Is there any source for replacement wood for the 1851 Cadet (fore end or whole stock)? I basically need an 1851 fore end from the rear band forward. I see where S&S HAD 1851 fore ends at one time, but they're currently out of stock.
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    cadet forearm

    John Bly lists them on his " replacement forearms list for sale", you should be able to find one of his old posts here, and send him a private message. ( He does a fantastic job with them, I've used many)
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    I do have a cadet forend pattern, unfortunately it is not a very good one and the thinness of it makes it one of the most difficult to cut. It is better than none at all and a good craftsman can make it up into a decent finished item.

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