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    Help identifiying manufacture of reproduction Sharps

    Good morning,

    I picked up a Sharps saddle ring carbine for a steal, but cannot for the life of me figure out who made the thing. There are not a lot of markings at all. Just S.C. Robinson Arms Company, Richmond, VA, 1862 on the reciever, with the same and .54 caliber, use black powder only on the barrel. There is one S stamped on the underside of the reciever, and serial numbers are in various places. Thats it.

    The serial number is within the extremely low 300's. I'm sure it was made in Italy somewhere but even with the stock off I cannot locate anything.

    Any help with this is greatly appreciated.
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    An enigma, if it were made in Italy it should (required by law) have proof marks and a date code. I see no signs that it's been defarbed or refinished.

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    Shiloh made them.
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    Shiloh Richmond

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wimbish, 10395 View Post
    Shiloh made them.
    I believe Jim is correct. As I recall Shiloh made about 300 of the Richmonds back in the Farmingdale days? Steve
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    I know Shiloh made some many years ago and this may be one of them. The quality looks too good to be an off brand foreign made one and the absence of proof marks that are required in European countries says it was not made in Europe.

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    I owned one of them. Same gun.
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    I guess that makes it a better deal than you thought it was. Congrats.
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    According to the NSSA Approved arms list, Section 5 Carbines, the 1862 Robinson/Richmond Sharps by Shiloh is marked with that S on the bottom of the frame. Doesn?t mention any other Shiloh marks. Congratulations on a great score.

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    Thanks for the help all! Better than I expected. I've never messed with a Sharps before, but when watching videos of disassembly and cleaning of the 1859's and 1863's it seems people are having no trouble at all removing the breech block face plate. Mine seemed like it was nearly welded in.. It took a long soak in Kroil, a rubber mallet, some choice words, and some persuasion but I finally managed to free it. After cleaning up what seemed to be dried grease I still had to use the rubber mallet to get it back into place or I couldn't insert the block into the gun. Are there any tips or tricks that can help with this? Would an O-Ring conversion make maintenance simpler? Thanks again for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatlander35 View Post
    Are there any tips or tricks that can help with this? Would an O-Ring conversion make maintenance simpler? Thanks again for the help.
    What I like about the Sharps is its the only breech loading carbine that you don't have to remove a spent shell before you load it.
    If you're going to compete with it, call Larry Flees at 231-342-0821 or email him at ljflees@hotmail.com.
    The o ring conversion lets you shoot all day without getting tied up with fouling and you'll get you money back if you sell it.
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