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    Palmetto musket- is it the real thing

    Hi,
    A friend found this in his grandfather's attic. Is there any way of knowing from a cursory inspection if it is real or repro. It doesnt look 170 years old. Lots of brass and the wood under the barrel bands is really old looking like maybe is had some refinishing. Thanks for any help. Ron
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    Looks like a Palmetto 1842 smoothbore. If original, it's seen VERY little wear.

    How's the bore?

    If it were mine, I'd be careful not to take the first offer.
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    td9323 - Most respectfully, your Palmetto Musket is without a doubt a modern reproduction. My reasons for saying it is a reproduction is very simply the markings on the tail of the lock are hand stamped with individual stamps, Palmetto was a single unit block stamp, the William Glaze stamps are the wrong size, the bolster is incorrect, etc.

    It was most likely imported from India. If it is in fact an Indian import I would be most hesitant about ever shooting it with anything other than a moderate blank charge, and then nothing less than 2F granulation black powder.
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    1842 Palmetto

    I think it was made or imported rather by Loyalist Arms, they still show one on their website. (The Bolster shown on their site is a dead ringer for this one.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Holland View Post
    td9323 - Most respectfully, your Palmetto Musket is without a doubt a modern reproduction. My reasons for saying it is a reproduction is very simply the markings on the tail of the lock are hand stamped with individual stamps, Palmetto was a single unit block stamp, the William Glaze stamps are the wrong size, the bolster is incorrect, etc.

    It was most likely imported from India. If it is in fact an Indian import I would be most hesitant about ever shooting it with anything other than a moderate blank charge, and then nothing less than 2F granulation black powder.
    Not that I plan on doing anything like it.. but could you take one of the indian repro's and put a breech and barrel from a reputable maker on it and make it a shooter? Just curious..

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    Were I to want to make it into a safe shooter, I'd have Robert Hoyt line the barrel, smoothbore or rifled...early in the war some Palmettos were rifled by South Carolina.

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    Rob Harrison - This topic has been covered on the BB several times over the years, but I don't mind revisiting it for our newer members and other followers. Replacing the questionable barrel with an N-SSA Approved Barrel is certainly a viable option....IF....the musket meets the dimensional and other requirements of the N-SSA's Small Arms Committee. Many people have talked about doing this very thing, but to date no one has yet to provide a sample of the Indian manufactured Palmetto Musket to see if the basic musket meets the requirements.

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    Dave Fox - The India made barrel is not acceptable in any way, shape, form, or manner. Having it lined will not make it able to be approved by the N-SSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Holland View Post
    Dave Fox - The India made barrel is not acceptable in any way, shape, form, or manner. Having it lined will not make it able to be approved by the N-SSA.

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    I don?t have any plans to shoot it. It?s a wall hanger for me. The consensus seems to be that it?s a fake?

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    Not a fake....... just not an original repro
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