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    Proposed Virginia Gun Control Bills

    I normally shun all sorts of social media. However, our hobby is threatened by the New Democrat control of all houses of Virginia State Government. Pending bills will rule outdoor ranges within 500 yards of residential properties illegal, outlaw the extremely modern and safe NRA indoor range in Fairfax illegal plus other restrictive measures.

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League summary is posted below. Please read and contact your state Senator and Delegate registering your opposition to these gun control bills--they are not gun safety bills. SB 16, which was withdrawn in the Senate could be interpreted to outlaw Henry firearms based upon the wording. Several skirmishes in NY do not include Henry matches due to interpretation of an existing and similar law in New York.

    Copied from the VCDL:

    Several thousand gun owners turned out at the temporary General Assembly Building on Monday, January 13! The hearing room was divided into two areas - the larger area for gun-rights supporters and the other was a smaller area for gun-control supporters.

    Gun owners filled up their side of the room quickly, while the gun controllers side was still pretty empty. To make it looked like they had more people and not look so pitiful, a search for gun-controllers in the waiting line outside the meeting room doors was conducted. Countless gun owners in the line were skipped over in the search for more gun-controllers. Whenever a gun controller was found, they were allowed to go into the meeting room, but no more gun owners were allowed in.

    Sheriff Scott Jenkins of Culpeper County and Sheriff Richard Vaughn of Grayson County were in the room in support of gun owners. Sheriff Jenkins spoke twice during the hearings.

    The meeting was chaired by Democrat Senator John Edwards. The Republicans on the committee pointed out multiple mistakes and even rules that were broken in the running of the committee, but the Democrat-controlled committee ignored the complaints and lurched forward anyhow, rules be damned.

    Republican Senator Bill Stanley, who could not be at the hearing due to a trial he had to attend, had been promised by John Edwards that no gun bills would be heard on Monday, but Senator Edwards went back on his word and gun bills were heard anyhow. Senator Mark Obenshain brought up that broken promise, but to no avail.


    Each side was only given 5 minutes total to speak on each bill.

    The first gun-control bill to pass out of committee was SB 69, a one-handgun a month bill, which reinstated the last version of that law before it was repealed. Senator Saslaw's version of that same bill, SB 22, was rolled into SB 69 and SB 69 was passed out by a partisan vote of 9 to 5. Republican senators Mark Obenshain and Ryan McDougle put up strong resistance, as did speakers who pointed out that the law had been a failure, but to no avail.

    Next up was SB 70, a Universal Background Check bill. Saslaw's version of the same bill, SB 12, was rolled into SB 70. A substitute bill was then offered for SB 70, which made the background checks only apply to sales of guns and not transfers, which fixes the problems with letting a friend or family member use one of your guns without you being constantly present. However, it still strips an 18, 19, or 20 year old from being able to own a handgun, since a dealer cannot process a handgun purchased by federal law for someone that age. Also, a background check would have to be run on all sales, even sales to immediate family members, friends, etc.! SB 70 passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5.

    Senator Barker's Red Flag Law bill, SB 240, was eviscerated, as all the flaws and dangers of that bill were brought up by Republicans Obenshain, McDougle, and Chafin on the committee, as well as by the pro-gun speakers. None of the concerns were addressed and the bill was passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5.

    Finally, SB 615, SB 450, and SB 505, all of which allow localities to pass various gun-control ordinances, were rolled into a substitute version of SB 35, making SB 35 an omnibus bill that destroys preemption by allowing Virginia localities to create a confusing set of local gun-control laws. Again, speaker after speaker spoke against SB 35, but it passed by a partisan 9 to 5 vote.

    The gun-control bills that passed out of committee will now head to the Senate Floor to be voted on in a few days. VCDL will have an acton item shortly to bombard Senators with calls and emails encouraging them to opposed the four bills.


    Dennis Heuer
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    Dennis,

    There seems to be some confusion about shooting Henrys in New York. The Northeast Region shoots Henry's at every skirmish. In reviewing the new York Unsafe Act, I have found the the Henry is legal and illegal. The Demcraps truly don't know what they are doing.

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    Gun owners filled up their side of the room quickly, while the gun controllers side was still pretty empty. To make it looked like they had more people and not look so pitiful, a search for gun-controllers in the waiting line outside the meeting room doors was conducted. Countless gun owners in the line were skipped over in the search for more gun-controllers. Whenever a gun controller was found, they were allowed to go into the meeting room, but no more gun owners were allowed in.


    The solution to this problem seems to me to be for gun owners to claim to be anti-gunners for purposes of seating. Then they can all pull out their Pro-2A hats and Guns Save Lives stickers.

    Steve

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    We could lose Ft Shenandoah. Recall the Governor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Lou Lou View Post
    We could lose Ft Shenandoah. Recall the Governor
    We wouldn't LOSE it of course, we just couldn't use it as a target range (and thus, what would be the point of having it?)

    It's an "Operation unthinkable" moment, but besides noting that it wouldn't impact JUST the fort, but all N-SSA ranges in VA, if we could no longer USE the fort for its intended purposes I think we'd have to have a hard look at matters... what our current treasury balance is, how much we could sell the fort for (eep) plus any surrounding lands we own, what land we could buy for the money we would have from those proceeds in WV or KY or TN or PA or wherever, and go from there. If push came to shove we could probably leverage the cash to buy a piece of land big enough for a range, but am unsure about "big enough for a campground with toilets etc etc."

    Let's all make our voices heard and make sure that situation doesn't become a reality.

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