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    bullet lubes....

    Hi Troops:

    In a thread in another discussion above a member makes reference to using a mix of lard and beeswax as a lube. He states that when he tried using Crisco and beeswax his group opened up. This got me to wondering as I heard some years ago that Crisco had changed their ingredients.

    This got me to wondering if I should try a lard based lube. Anybody out there use lard and what are the things to look out for??
    Do you have to keep it refrigerated??
    And what are the ratios of lard to beeswax??

    An inquiring mind wants to know.

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    Lard?

    Several of our members continue to use Crisco and don't seem to have problems with it. MCM lube works well also. If it isn't broken, why "fix" it?

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    Hello:
    Some time ago there was a "... changed the ingredients..." comment here.

    So, GOOGLED "CRISCO history" to learn it was NEVER an animal product and was ALWAYS A VEGETABLE OIL.

    No lard, if it matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William H. Shuey View Post
    Hi Troops:

    In a thread in another discussion above a member makes reference to using a mix of lard and beeswax as a lube. He states that when he tried using Crisco and beeswax his group opened up. This got me to wondering as I heard some years ago that Crisco had changed their ingredients.

    This got me to wondering if I should try a lard based lube. Anybody out there use lard and what are the things to look out for??
    Do you have to keep it refrigerated??
    And what are the ratios of lard to beeswax??

    An inquiring mind wants to know.

    Bill Shuey
    1st Maine Heavy Artillery
    Yeah, that was me. I was doing some reading on lubes in a buckskinning forum where I ran across it. What I can tell you is experiment. In my guns, the effect was significant and repeatable. I'm using 60/40 and don't refrigerate it. I just keep the pot with it covered when not lubing bullets. I do keep my loaded ammo in a cool dry place in storage and in a small lunch cooler at a skirmish to eliminate temperature variables.

    My latest experiment used bison tallow instead of lard. One bullet that didn't show much improvement with lard is shooting one hole groups with the bison tallow.
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    Which is 60 and which is 40?

    Also, does it ever turn rancid? If so, how long will it last before that happens?

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    60 beeswax 40 lard.

    Doesn't go rancid if you keep it covered and don't make swimming pool size batches.
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    Thanks. I may give that a try.

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    Capt. John Mallet, of the CS Central Ordnance Laboratory standardized musket bullet lube in April of 1863 at 2 parts beeswax and one part tallow. Before then, every ordnance lab was using it's own formula and the Confederate armies were having the same lube problems many of us have.

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