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    Question Set Rivet

    Bob & Kevin,
    Is the pop rivet SET with a tool or just pushed into the hole in the plastic tube and the "nail" removed. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Lintner View Post
    Bob & Kevin,
    Is the pop rivet SET with a tool or just pushed into the hole in the plastic tube and the "nail" removed. Thanks
    Bob L
    In my experience, the vent hole on new Smith tubes is too tight to thumb seat the rivets. Having access to a Number/Letter and Fractional drill index allowed me to pick out a correct bit and drill each tube so I could easily start them with thumb pressure and then seat them by pressing them down against the surface of the bench. The nails are usually a slip fit and so were easily removed before seating.
    Like I said in an earlier post, the more you shoot the tube, the flanged head of the rivet will be driven into the base of the tube so that they appear to be set flush. Done in this way, they will last almost forever. Life of the tubes will then only be limited by the case mouths burning out. The mouths can easily be resized if you wish by making a neck reforming tool (a friend made them for a while) where you heat the mouth with a flame (he used a lighter) and then pressed the tube into the die. I avoided this step because at $30 per hundred it wasn't worth the bother.
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    Bob are you saying you removed the nail/mandrel before even installing the rivet and therefore did not use a pop rivet tool to cinch the rivet in the case? It is only a friction fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal View Post
    Bob are you saying you removed the nail/mandrel before even installing the rivet and therefore did not use a pop rivet tool to cinch the rivet in the case? It is only a friction fit?
    Sure. With the rivet head seated into the case from the OUTSIDE, there's no place it can go. Using the rivet tool is gilding the lilly and would make getting those nails out a PITA.
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    Question rivet info

    Bob,
    Thank you very much. I did one by hand using only a small awl to slightly enlarge the hole and pushed the nail out. I thought it would be OK but wasn't sure. You have cleared it up. Thank you! I sure do appreciate it!
    Bob

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    Yes, thanks for the clarification.

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    You guys do realize that John at Northeast Traders carries brass bushing inserts for Smith tubes that have no nail/mandrel, fit the holes in the Smith tubes, and can be inserted without drilling or special prep.
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    Exclamation Brass bushings

    I didn't know that! Thanks for the info.

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    You're welcome, Bob. I think they're only about $5 per 100...something like that.
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    yore supply sells a rubber tube with the brass inserts in them. not really expensive and they come right out without needing pliers if you over use them. my brother has orange and the ones i just got are red. and you dont need to trim up the front edge.
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