Schuetzen Powder Problems at the Spring Nationals

[Jim Wimbish, 10395]

Having shot the Wilkinson many years ago, I learned that using a reasonable quantity of a soft lube in that nice big lube groove worked quite well. As long as you don't fill it up with some kind of rock hard lube that would keep the wedge from compressing, you will be fine. I actually thought that the two wedge Wilkinson was a really neat bullet, but it weighed 540 grains. But, the compression worked great with the two wedges and all that weight. Does anyone shoot the two wedge Wilkinson?

[bobanderson]

I hardly know what to say about this thread. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Anderson isn't permanently banished from this forum. Who ever heard of someone providing iron clad evidence to support a point of view (superior RWS cap blast) in the N-SSA. And then the guy rubs salt into the gaping wound he inflicted on poor Steve with the snap caps suggestion. And then Anderson completely undermines his own credibility by claiming he "practices." And then there is Steve calling that tiny little insignificant indention of the lower rim of that Wilkinson bullet a grease groove. And then he goes on to assert that he can shoot that greaseless thing all day with nary a wipe. We'll not even mention his temerity in challenging John Holland's statement. My gosh, it's off to the liquor cabinet for me!

If they banish me, you gotta go for creating a new word.
"Indention" instead of "indentation?"
Harry Truman would ask you for a return to normalcy.

[bobanderson]

What "normalcy" are you referring to?

Harry is credited with inventing the word in a State of the Union address.

[Hal]

Will Trump be credited with inventing "Bigly"?

[Muley Gil]

Harry is credited with inventing the word in a State of the Union address.

No, it was Warren Harding.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/normalcy

[bobanderson]

No, it was Warren Harding.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/normalcy

Thanks, Gil.

Ever noticed how often something you learned 50+ years ago is now somehow different?

The word was once centrifugal and now it's centripetal, for instance.

Pluto was a planet, then it wasn't and now it is again (or is it?)

Of course, it could be that my memory has turned to mush...

[Muley Gil]

Sheriff Andy Taylor looks at his barber and sez, "Floyd, Calvin Coolidge didn't say EVERYTHING!"

[Maillemaker]

nobody really likes the Schuetzen Powder in the N-SSA

I don't know if you can go for universal condemnation from a few replies here in this forum. I just know that initially I almost gave up on the Moose Wilkinson, thinking that it did not have enough lube-carrying capability, until I tried it with Goex and found it worked spectacularly and my fouling problems were powder-related and not lube-related. I used up all of it that I bought and I don't recall having problems with it with traditional expanding ball bullets.

Since I love the Moose Wilkinson bullet, though, I won't use Shuetzen anymore. I'm a Goex Guy.

Steve

[jonk]

I shot schutzen powder for about 2 years before doing tests with a chronograph. They said that while it did just fine in breechloading guns and cartridge guns, it was inconsistent with a minie ball. So, I switched back to Goex. But I did go through a lot of it, in all kinds of weather.

I never noticed that it was appreciably dirtier than Goex, though the erratic velocities out of the musket might contribute to more fouling.

I think I can recall fouling out once at ANY skirmish, and that was with Goex. Yeah, I get the occasional failure to fire with a sharps if the block pinches the tube, but I'm not counting that. The foul out was with a 61 Springfiield style lock where the flash has to make a few right angles to get to the powder, and was ultimately found to be caused by a fouled-in gap between the cone and the bolster.

I do not put much stock in the idea that it was the powder, for one simple reason. It doesn't matter how clean or dirty the powder burns: you adjust what YOU are doing to fit the circumstance. After one foul out, you should have religiously cleaned the gun after every relay, pure and simple. Now, if you WERE doing that... well then it really is a mystery.