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Thread: Usage of the Pattern 1858 two-band rifle-musket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt View Post
    I am forgetting the source, ...but believe it was one of the Whisker/Hartzler/Yantz books that lists an entry for 1800 (2,000?) Enfield Naval Rifles.
    The English Connection gives the figures for known Confederate imported P1858 Naval Rifles as 2,700. 1,000 of these rifles were purchased for the Confederate Navy and were imported with P1859 cutlass bayonets while the remaining guns were army purchases and were delivered with "standard" saber bayonets. All of these rifles are inventory control numbered on their buttplates with the Navy rifles being 1-1,000 and the Army rifles being mixed in with the 10,000 numbered "short" Enfield rifles delivered by Sinclair Hamilton and Company.


    For clarification for those who are not familiar, the P1856 Sergeant's Fusil for India Service was made to accept a socket bayonet rather than a saber bayonet like all other British military rifles of the period. Otherwise it is quite similar to other British rifles.

    Indian "Native troop" arms are a whole other ballpark and Mr. Schmidt has summed them up quite neatly above.

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    Edward Anderson-Georgia Purchasing Agent

    In early 1861, when Georgia seceded from the Union, Governor Joe Brown was not sure if Georgia would be an independent republic or a member of a Southern Confederacy.

    Regardless, Brown wanted Georgia to have enough arms to issue to its troops.

    Governor Brown commissioned Edward Anderson ( a former Naval officer and Mayor of Savannah) on his trip to England to purchase arms for Georgia in 1861.

    Anderson purchased a quantity of Enfield Rifles for Georgia. While most were standard P-53 "commercial" Enfields, included in that shipment were a quantity of 2 band "Native Sergeant Fusils. As stated in a post above, they were slightly modified P-56 Enfields, but they took a P-53 Rifle's socket bayonet rather than a saber bayonet as often used on the P-58 Naval Rifle.

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    And my Pietta 1853 has a 48" twist.

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    Although Pedersoli used the correct 5 land and groove 1/48 twist original specs for their barrel, it does not have progressive depth rifling like the originals. The progressive depth rifling makes a big difference with some bullets, especially with lighter loads.
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