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    smoothbore accuracy

    Would musket lube be better?
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    Farrier files no good. Use wood rasps and ALOX as usual. First couple of rounds should load very easy but still some friction. Steadily increasing resistance but still loadable at 10 rds. I've shot close to a one hole group offhand with this combo (56 grains fffg GOEX) at 25yds. Easily shoot in the 40s at 50yds. I use .678 balls from Lyman mould. Got to have room in there as crud builds, not the close tolerances you have with minies..
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    Try doing what you are doin BUT after the wood, assemble the rounds. Then use case to triple dip in MCM lube
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    Not wood but wood. Dang auto correct
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    In my potsdam 2f Swiss 715 ball rolled between wood rasps set in tubes then dipped in musket lube thinned out with a little Crisco can load around 15 shot before I have any problems loading
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    Absolutely NO Alox here. My 1842 Macon seems to shoot rather well with 65gr 3f, ball roughed by farrier file and exposed end double dipped in Lens Lube. Load with lube side to powder, 10+ shots before getting crunchy.
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    The fouling accumulated near the breech tells me you are using Swiss. In my experimenting, the same fouling ring happened about 6” from the muzzle with plain Goex 3f. It also seemed that it didn’t have anything to do with what and how much lube you use. When I switched to Goex Express, the same as Old Eynsford 3f, the fouling ring went away. I’m of the opinion that the liquid alox turns right into carbon and eventually fouls out the barrel.
    I use two farrier’s files and roll the balls until they are a snug slip fit down my Hoyt lined H&P. I got a 6” piece of Bobby’s cutoff to use as a filing gauge. Every round I shoot goes through the gauge before I load it into a tube. I load them dry with no lube and can get about 20 shots without noticeable fouling. The last shot loads about the same as the second one, and not all that different from the first one.
    (I also have a 30” Macon with a Hoyt barrel that uses the same projectiles.)
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    I shoot 70 grains 3F Goex, and also have noticed the "fouling ring" during shooting. Not sure exactly where it is in the bore, though I think it's closer to the muzzle for me.

    Anyway I tried shooting them rough, rough+alox, and non-rough, and without lube things got crunchier faster.

    I don't think Alox is a particularly good lube in this application and I don't think it is intended to function as lube so much as a windage-eater for the ball while in the bore.

    I've not experimented with using actual lube with round balls but it seems a messy proposition to me. I don't have any problems getting through N-SSA competitions with rough Alox balls.

    Steve

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    I use a soft lube when plunking and put a juicy glob on top of the ball between shots - at my loading bench of course. Never any crud or loading problems at all. Of course the problem in the N-SSA is you're pegged to the line. Double ALOX is the best I've come up with so far for the skirmish.

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