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    Specification/Descriptions/Inspection Sheets of Approved Firearms.

    I know when we take a firearm to get inspected,,, out comes a Inspection Sheet with all the statistics on it to be used for the inspection.

    Are these sheets in the rules or online, I have not been able to find them.

    I have a cut off Mississippi that I want to see if it meets the "specs".

    I think all that has to be done is to sleeve the barrel but I want to confirm before I do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBR10654 View Post
    I know when we take a firearm to get inspected,,, out comes a Inspection Sheet with all the statistics on it to be used for the inspection.

    Are these sheets in the rules or online, I have not been able to find them.

    I have a cut off Mississippi that I want to see if it meets the "specs".

    I think all that has to be done is to sleeve the barrel but I want to confirm before I do it.

    DPBaldwin
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    SAC sheet for 1841 Mississippi (as issued) attached.
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Paul Altland
    21st Va. Md Guard Co. B

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    Thanks, Paul:

    Sorry to add to this topic. But, where might we find the "types" or versions, please?

    Respectfully,
    Kevin Tinny
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    Thanks

    Thanks lot,

    DPB

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    SAC sheet for 1841 Mississippi (as issued) attached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Tinny View Post
    Thanks, Paul:

    Sorry to add to this topic. But, where might we find the "types" or versions, please?

    Respectfully,
    Kevin Tinny
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    John Holland was kind enough to supply me with numerous variants when I was converting my Mississippi to a Type E. I can upload all I have or one of specific interest.

    Ignore the previous post. My Tapatalk has been logging me in incorrectly.

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    Again, thanks, Paul:

    Uploading would help me and others when they search for the same info.
    No rush. Will standby.

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    Kevin

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    Kevin, keep in mind that here are about 16 recognized variants of the 1841 rifle accepted for N-SSA use. You should have some idea of the variant of which you need the spec sheet. Any member of the small arm committee can get you a spec sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Tinny View Post
    Again, thanks, Paul:

    Uploading would help me and others when they search for the same info.
    No rush. Will standby.

    Respectfully,
    Kevin
    Kevin,

    SAC Sheets for 12 of the variants and instructions for measuring.

    Sorry, must have reached my limit. Measuring instructions didn't attach.
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    Super and thanks, Paul:

    Now I can more accurately ID my three, two of which will be presented to the SAC in Oct.

    My first one, SAC carded this past May was characterized on SAC card 17-026, signed by
    "John", as:

    "1841 MISS DRAKE ALT For MASS."

    Big help.

    Kevin
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    The Model 1841 Rifle, aka Mississippi, alterations are among the most difficult to sort out for collectors and enthusiasts alike. In the early days of the N-SSA, nearly nothing was known about the multitude of variants of M-1841 arms. Some 35+ years ago the scholars of the N-SSA began studying the assorted types of M-1841 Rifles which would best lend themselves for use in the N-SSA. Beginning with the "As-Issued" Rifle, over the years 12 additional sight variants were added to the data base. What was not added to the data base were the plethora of bayonet alteration types, because the rear sight stayed the same as the "As-Issued" block sight. The N-SSA created their own unique identification system for each sighted variant, because there were no formal designations for them at that time. Things went along quite smoothly until George Moller came out with Volume 3 of his set of "American Military Shoulder Arms". In this volume George invented his own terminology for the various types of sight altered M-1841 Rifles, which unfortunately differs radically from what the N-SSA had been using for decades. Hence, there is now a conflict in identification of types for our membership. The bottom line for the membership is: When building a "Mississippi" for use in the N-SSA's Competitive Matches, use our designations. Please do not present your submittal as a "Moller Type 2a", etc.

    We, the Small Arms Committee (SAC), fully intend to make the informational inspection sheets available on the website at some time in the future. This project is taking much longer than originally anticipated. The reason is because the original sheets were cryptic at best, having been designed for use by people who were extremely knowledgeable in all types of Civil War arms. Many items which were required for the finished arm were not on the sheets because the SAC Inspectors knew exactly what to check for without needing the information to be spelled out on the sheets. In essence, they were internal documents. Therefore, before these sheets can be presented to the public at large, the majority of them must be completely re-formatted to include all in-depth information for each arm and in terms which are easily understood by anyone, and not just arms students. The most commonly used sheets, and which are handed out publicly, have been upgraded. This still leaves over 100 sheets to be re-done. These alterations are labor intensive, and are done manually one at a time. In this, I thank the membership for their patience with this ongoing project.

    John Holland
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