Ballard extractor knob

**ian45662** · 10-18-2015

I was shooting me Ballard over the weekend and the dang extractor knob fell out. It fell out and hit my shoe. I looked down and there it was laying in the grass. I picked it up and re installed it but when I tighten it all the way the extractor knob binds up on the guide and so I have to loosen it a bit for it to operate freely. My question is this. Was there another part that fell out like a really long washer or spacer that keeps the knob from touching the guide when the knob is tight? If so it would be an easy part for the local machine shop to make. Turn a piece of metal do the desired O.D. Then drill the inside diam
and cut it to length. Should I put a dab of locktite on the knob and tighten it so that it still moves freely or is there a part that I didn't see? Gun was made by brown and is a 3 band rifle

**bobanderson** · 10-19-2015

I'll be happy to take it off your hands.

**ian45662** · 10-19-2015

Sorry bob this one will be with me for as long as I live.

**maynard6** · 10-19-2015

Checked my Brown Ballard rifle There doesn't appear to be any washer.Could the screw be going thru extractor and not hitting a stop? 150 years of wear may have worn it off .Just a thought Bob

**ian45662** · 10-19-2015

Does it not have a "square thingy" that goes in between the bolt of the ejector knob and the guides? Another fella I know who has a brown has this although I have no idea what it looks like. Does the bolt on yours have any side to side wobble? I honestly cant remember any square washer but I was able to tighten it and it would still move freely. Something has worn out or fell off. If all else fails I will put a dab of locktite on the knob and tighten it till its locked up and then back it out until the ejector moves freely.

**Rob FreemanWBR** · 10-19-2015

As I recall my Ballard, there is no washer of any sort involved. The extractor knob simply screw in the piece.

Re the square "thingy" it is called an extractor guide. You can by repos from S and S for a few bucks, they have plenty. All in all that part seems to be more asthetic than anything else. My original didn't have one and its absence has NO effect on the arms function or accuracy. May need a few small drops of gorilla glue applied with a toothpick to install/affix the guide. Be sure to blue it before installing, unless you want a bright part to develop a nice patina over time.

hope this is of some use/help based on my faulty memory.

**ian45662** · 10-19-2015

Thanks for the help. Your right it still functions without the part but the screw keeps backing out. I'll giver a dab of locktite and be on my way

**bobanderson** · 10-20-2015

Originally Posted by ian45662

Thanks for the help. Your right it still functions without the part but the screw keeps backing out. I'll giver a dab of locktite and be on my way

Ian,
You could bring it to Washtenaw Sportsman's Club in Ypsilanti, MI for our first Black Powder Through the Ages match on November 7th.

If you'd like, I'll bring my Ball & Williams carbine to compare.

**Bruce Cobb 1723V** · 10-20-2015

I think the knobs were hand fitted. After use they can lossen. When too loose, to much tightening and the threaded portion will go thru the extractor body until it hits the barrel and binds the extractor up. A thread binder is the easiest way to fix. A fellow Ballard fan.

**ian45662** · 10-20-2015

I am going to run to the hardware store today and grab some blue locktite. Bob I don't plan on going to a BPTTA shoot until Dec. For the first shoot I will either be working or very possible going down to eva TN for a skirmish down there