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Thread: Sighted Smoothbores should be in their own class.

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    Also because we want to cut the extra time we are wasting on SB and others, why not just go back to facts....

    How many centerfire guns were in the Civil War?
    Whats the number of center fire guns being used in nationals... ?

    why we get so many tight underwear people when we talk sighted and unsighed Yet we let people convert guns to centerfire, and let you change the sights all you want...
    But don't touch your smoothbore sights.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Really "result" might be better than "facts."Good test. But good scientific data needs repeatability. Do it again - different shooters. Then again. Some other facts:

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    True results would be better then we find the facts..

    All they need to do is break it up for one national and see what it does for sighted vs not.

    Or do this, nothing other then when you order the targets pick sighted or not.
    One could get a black X and the other a blue X.
    Then behind your number that could list S or NS.

    Let the normal top 40 listed on the board show the ranking of the different guns. No extra medals no time, no problems...
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    Take a moment and look at the scores from the Spring Nationals in 25 and 50 yard smoothbore medal competition. What do you think?
    I looked at the individual smoothbore scores, and I did not see any mention of the kind of firearm being used. Am I missing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maillemaker View Post
    I looked at the individual smoothbore scores, and I did not see any mention of the kind of firearm being used. Am I missing it?

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    They are not.

    I was in the stat house for the spring. Not a single target saud anything on it other then the norm.

    You can look and talk all you want. They shoukd be marked on the target just for record.
    That way they know what is winning and the numbers of sight and not.
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    Hallo!

    Rotate the tang screw so that the tang "just happens" to line up with the front sight and serves as a fixed rear sight.
    If need be, bend the barrel to compensate for a too high or too low sight picture's POI.

    Just a-funnin,' just a-funnin.'

    (Not relevant to the discussion, or the N-SSA, but historically a number of 18th century trade guns (SB) exist that have a chisel cut groove in the tang to serve as a rear sight alone or in conjunction with the slot of the tang screw. Some people thought it worth while to do. )



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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt View Post
    Hallo!

    Rotate the tang screw so that the tang "just happens" to line up with the front sight and serves as a fixed rear sight.
    If need be, bend the barrel to compensate for a too high or too low sight picture's POI.

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    Curt - you are tarred and feathered - then burned at the stake in the NMLRA for this.

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    A further thought: if you feel that you are at a disadvantage using a non-sighted smoothbore, well- go out and get one. Simple as that.

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    A further thought: if you feel that you are at a disadvantage using a non-sighted smoothbore, well- go out and get one. Simple as that.
    Perhaps not so simple as that, though. They are now rarer than hens teeth on my usual for-sale haunts. Even a Google search turned up only one that appeared to be currently for sale, but there is no date on the listing so who knows.

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    I shoot a sighted smoothbore and thought at one time that there was an advantage until I shot an unsighted 42 better that I usually shoot my H&P. Granted it was only once at my home range but I did shoot a 42 in one event and I had the same amount of hits as I would expect otherwise. I would like to try a 42 for an entire skirmish and see what the difference is as a whole. I know a fella on here who may be willing to trade me his 42 for my H&P just for one shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maillemaker View Post
    Perhaps not so simple as that, though. They are now rarer than hens teeth on my usual for-sale haunts. Even a Google search turned up only one that appeared to be currently for sale, but there is no date on the listing so who knows.

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    Well, I saw several at nationals. 1816 H&Ps, Potsdams, even a Baker and an Austrian 1840 tube lock gun.

    you are right though, they don't come up as often as they used to for the 1816s.

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