uberti 1860 colt

[ian45662]

Anyone shooting the uberti 1860 colt revolver in skirmishing? Are they any good?

[John Holland]

Uberti is, and always has been, a top of the line manufacturer. This is a personal opinion, not speaking from a SAC point of view. I have experience with quite a few Uberti made arms and have found them to be universally very well made.

JDH

[ian45662]

I just wonder why I don't see to many of them on the line. Is there a reason?

[John Holland]

Ian - Very simple answer, the competitive revolver shooters don't like a rear sight that disappears when the trigger is squeezed!

JDH

[Ron/The Old Reb]

The way the barrel attachés to the frame is not a good design for accuracy. It is a fun revolver for shooting tin cans or a double dealing card shark across a poker table. But I would never use it for serious target shooting.

[ian45662]

I have seen some respectable groups shot with them certainly good enough to hit clay birds. All my cap and ball revolvers were stolen almost a year ago and I was really thinking about going with the 1860

[Terry Davis 10639]

I have a Uberti 1860 army, and it shoots as tight a group as my remington or my Tom Ball R&S. My 1860 will shoot groups the size of the center of a pigeon rested at 25 yards. If I could duplicate that off hand, I would be very happy. I do have to admit I have not worked with loads for the R&S much yet, but so far, I get 4 pretty tight shots then it throws a couple out that open the group up a bit compared with the 1860 which puts all six together more consistently. Either way both will break targets if I can hold it.

In my opinion, the biggest PITA is getting them to shoot to point of aim since they don't come with dovetailed front sights out of the box like some R&S and Rems. Of course, that can be remedied with time and money.

It is a "weaker" design without the top strap, but with the small charge I use, am I really stressing it that badly? Even if it wore out over time, I am sure it would be a LONG time, and, oh no, I get to buy ANOTHER gun :)
As far as the rear sight being on the hammer, I must blink as I squeeze off because I don't see the sight as the shot is going off on any of my guns, so it makes no difference in my shooting.

I like the feel of the grip far more than a rem. or a R&S. The quality of Uberti is great, so if it fits you, and you can see the sights for consistent sight picture, go for it.

[Maillemaker]

I love the looks of the 1860 Army.

But like John said, it is a design with movable sights.

Also it's harder to get the cylinder in and out of an army compared to, say, a Remington, and a lot of people like to load up the cylinders using an external loader and pop it into the revolver and go. With the Colts, I use the built-in loading lever.

I'm saving up my pennies for a revolver. I was going to go with an 1860 Army but I'm tempted to get one of those "shooter" Remingtons from Dixie Gun Works that are supposedly match-grade out of the box.

Steve

[Richard Hill]

The "shooter" Remington sold by Dixie is not the same one as sold by Navy Arms several years ago. Be careful...

[Mike McDaniel]

I'd characterize the Pietta Shooter's Model as good, not match grade. They will shoot OK after you do a trigger job. If you want match-grade straight from the box, it's Hege or Feinwerkbau, and don't ask the cost.

[John Holland]

Mike's right...if you have to ask how much they cost, then you can't afford them! :eek:

JDH

[Maillemaker]

So is this Pietta 1858 "Shooters" model for $750:

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=4098

Any better than the standard Pietta 1858 for $315?

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=905

Steve

[ian45662]

Is it normal for the uberti 1860 to have some wobble in the barrel or the rod that the barrel attaches to. Someone has one that was made in 2008 that he claims has never been shot for 200 bucks. I have not looked at it yet but my brother had a pietta 1860 that had some wobble to it and I wondered if I could expect the same.

[John Holland]

If there is any "wobble" at all....pass on it and find one that doesn't "wobble".

JDH

[Terry Davis 10639]

My Uberti has no wobble.

I have an old Navy arms 1860 I got for my 16th birthday many years ago that I shot so much with heavier than necessary charges it developed a wobble. It was poor quality, but at that time I was happy just to have one. I now use it for dryfire practice only since I consider it unsafe to shoot.

[Timmeu]

Hi Ian

I second John's post. I have shot 15 to 20 colt repops as well as my dad's second generation and have never came across one that wobbled. I wouldn't shoot one that did.

[Tom Magno, 9269V]

So is this Pietta 1858 "Shooters" model for $750:

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=4098

Any better than the standard Pietta 1858 for $315?

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=905

Steve

Yes it is better. The shooters model has a gain twist barrel, a dovetailed front sight, tuned timing/action and honed cylinders (.456) that accept a .457 ball. Mine came with a 3lb trigger and shot really well right out of the box. The standard model has a strait 1:30 rifled barrel, pinned front sight and the action is not perfectly timed (I had one where the cylinders did not line up perfectly with the barrel leade. The cylinders are smaller (.450). Not to mention the trigger was about 7 lbs.

[Jim Wimbish, 10395]

I have both the Pietta Shooters revolver and the Feinwerkbau Rogers & Spencer. The Shooters revolver has about everything done to it that you will ever need to shoot competition in the NSSA. It is an excellent revolver and a significant upgrade over their standard revolvers. Mine had about a 5 lb trigger pull which surprised me, but it was easy to get this adjusted below 3 lbs by a gunsmith. With most of the standard revolvers out there you will need to have the forcing cone cut, the chambers reamed, the trigger pull reduced, and the front sight dovetailed. Even after you have had all that done, you still won't have the tight tolerances on the cylinder pin or the gain twist rifling that the Shooters Model has.

Jim

[Maillemaker]

Thanks for the input on the "shooters" model. It sounds like it is worth the extra money.

Steve