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hobbler
01-15-2012, 01:27 PM
Just a passing thought for folks that also get frustrated with measuring three groove bore diameters.
This may be common place for all I know.

Stand up a minie on a hard surface and tap the nose with a hammer. Try it in the bore. Keep tapping the nose until there is resistance from the the base going in the bore. With the bore oiled, hold the minie by the nose and turn it in the bore. Tap it again. Twist it again. Keep going. After a while you get a shiny band of lead on the base of the minie that you can measure. The way that I do it (careful tapping and twisting technique, my hammer, my hand) I'll get right at 0.002" under the bore diameter. And, no longer have to borrow three point micrometers.

Eggman
01-15-2012, 05:58 PM
Where does one find a three point micrometer?

hobbler
01-15-2012, 06:54 PM
Starret makes good ones. Some have three bars and some have more.
http://www.starrett.com/metrology/metrology-products/precision-measuring-tools/bore-gages/Mechanical-Bore-Micrometers

I've used the pistol grip kind too.
http://store.greatgages.com/servlet/Categories?category=Inside+Measurements%3A.+Pistol +Grips

William H. Shuey
01-16-2012, 01:29 AM
They ain't peanuts $$$ wise.

Bill Shuey

Don Dixon
01-16-2012, 09:20 AM
The simplest solution is to buy a set of plus size machinist's plug gauges in .001 increments in the size range in which you are interested; say .575 to .582. It doesn't cost that much, works in any bore independent of the number of lands and groves, saves a lot of time, and gives you exact measurements. Then size your bullet .001 smaller than the size of the best fitting plug gauge and you are good to go for size. Lube, powder, etc are another matter.

Regards,
Don Dixon
2881V

Maillemaker
01-16-2012, 12:04 PM
I didn't have a set of bore gages so I did the same thing - I pushed in a tight-fitting bullet onto one band of the bullet, pulled it out, turned it a bit to hit the lands again, pushed it back in, etc, until I could spin the bullet in the bore.

Steve

Southron Sr.
01-17-2012, 08:15 PM
I ordered a set of Plug Gauges from Grizzly. They go from .500 to .625 and cost only a little more than $60.00

Makes measuring bore sizes easy as pie!

Ken Hansgen, 11094
01-17-2012, 10:38 PM
Brannen, Do you have one plug for every thousanth inch? If so, that's an awful lot of plugs!

Don Dixon
01-18-2012, 07:48 AM
Ken,

Supply houses that deal with machinists and manufacturing companies sell relatively inexpensive boxed sets of gauges, and you can also buy single gauges. I have two boxed sets: one from .400 to .499, and the second from .500 to .599. As Southron pointed out, the number of gauges in other supplier's sets may vary. My two sets cover almost everything muzzle loading that I shoot. The smaller set was very useful, for example, in determining why an older Tom Ball revolver had deteriorating accuracy; the muzzle had become somewhat enlarged from cleaning over the years, since you have to clean M1858 Remingtons from the muzzle. One sees the same problem in muzzle loading rifles.

You don't need the entire boxed set for one caliber - if thats all you shoot -which is why I suggested a smaller sized range.

Regards,
Don Dixon
2881V

Maillemaker
01-18-2012, 08:09 AM
Anyone have a link to these plugs? I had checked on McMaster-Carr but they did not go up to .58 sizes that I saw.

Steve

Gary Van Kauwenbergh, 101
01-18-2012, 09:57 AM
Go to grizzly.com and search for G9795

Maillemaker
01-18-2012, 11:18 AM
Here is a link to the item:

http://www.grizzly.com/outlet/Steel-Plug-Gauge-Set-125-pc-Plus/G9795

Steve

Gary B
01-18-2012, 01:51 PM
I bought a very nice 3-stick set of musket bore gauges from Eric Schuessler of Hinkley Gun Works (shoots with Gen. Shermans Body Guards) a few years ago. They have worked very well, comes in it's own carry case.
Also were less $ than Grizley's
Hope this helps,
Gary B.

Lou Lou Lou
01-19-2012, 06:39 AM
How much for the Schuessler set?

pastore
01-19-2012, 10:39 AM
How much for the Schuessler set?

You can get individual guages for about $3.50 each here: www.isco.carrlane.net/catalog (http://www.isco.carrlane.net/catalog).

Maillemaker
01-19-2012, 01:11 PM
You can get individual guages for about $3.50 each here: www.isco.carrlane.net/catalog (http://www.isco.carrlane.net/catalog).

Linky no worky.

Steve

Timmeu
01-19-2012, 07:58 PM
Take the period of the end of the link and it works fine

Regards

Maillemaker
01-19-2012, 09:35 PM
Nope:

www.isco.carrlane.net/catalog

Does not work for me.

Steve

Muley Gil
01-19-2012, 10:15 PM
Is this what we're looking for?

http://www.carrlane.com/catalog/index.cfm/26605071F0B021118070C1C510D020609090C0015480013180 B041D1E173C1B08535B

Timmeu
01-19-2012, 11:02 PM
www.isco.carrlane.net/catalog (http://www.isco.carrlane.net/catalog)

works fine

Maillemaker
01-23-2012, 12:09 PM
I still get "Server not found" on Timmeu's link, but Muley's works fine.

Steve

RaiderANV
01-24-2012, 02:57 PM
Dan Whitacre makes them and he's a skirmisher. Sorta like keeping your money in the "family" if ya buy from him!!

http://www.whitacresmachineshop.com/

G (http://www.whitacresmachineshop.com/)Ive him a call. The one I use goes from .576 to .580 He can make them any way you like

Gary B
01-26-2012, 11:45 AM
Lou Lou Lou,
Eric's bore guage set, I believe, was around $25-$30. But I will qualify that by saying it has been a few years and as ususal, "I got a good memory, it just don't last very long" :-)
Send me a PM if you need his contact info.
Gary B.