Yup Another Lube Question

[Kurt Lacko 7862]

Not really, just one of the ingredients. For those using Tallow in their formula are you using Mutton Tallow or Beef Tallow? Is there really any difference besides price?

Thanks,
Kurt

[PoorJack]

Not really, just one of the ingredients. For those using Tallow in their formula are you using Mutton Tallow or Beef Tallow? Is there really any difference besides price?

Thanks,
Kurt

Experiment. Try both. Change only the one item, observe results. There's the answer.

[bobanderson]

Tried venison tallow once with good results.

Had to change cuz I wasn't shooting enough deer.

[Rebel Dave]

Dixie Gun Works sells Deer, and Mutton tallow, at least they use to.

Dave

[Kurt Lacko 7862]

Thanks everyone. I'll have to do some experimenting.

Kurt

[RangerFrog]

I?m too #*@& lazy to go chasing Bambi for his fat, so I?ve settled on unsalted Crisco for the fat component of my BP lube, usually a variant of Emmert?s Lube.
Froggie

[PoorJack]

I?m too #*@& lazy to go chasing Bambi for his fat, so I?ve settled on unsalted Crisco for the fat component of my BP lube, usually a variant of Emmert?s Lube.
Froggie

For an interesting experiment, make a small batch of each, one with crisco and one with lard/coconut oil and test. Change nothing else.

[Keith Williams]

Damn Bob, its not Muzzle-loading season in Michigan yet...furthermore, don't give away our Michigan secrets! ;)

Take care.

Keith A. Williams
15th Reg VA Vol Cav

[Tim Iannuzzi]

For an interesting experiment, make a small batch of each, one with crisco and one with lard/coconut oil and test. Change nothing else.

What's the general reason for mixing to coconut (or olive) oil with lard given the historic lube was just beeswax and tallow? Just curious.

....and, do you mix yours by weight or by volume?

[Keith Williams]

Hey Tim, I mix by melted volume: 1 cup of beeswax to 3/4 cup Crisco and 1/4 cup vegetable oil. I have no complaints so far...normally dip a week before events.

Take care,

Keith A. Williams
15th. Reg VA Vol Cav

[JW 5875V]

Many years ago, a member of either Knapps or 2nd Maryland
named "Lefty" had posted his lube recipes.
They were in category for musket, carbine, pistol,
smooth bore and even a secret for artillery!!

Last That I heard is he is relaxing on a beach somewhere,
don't if he reads the bulletin board much, sure miss
his knowledge as I didn't pay attention then.

Jim Whitehouse Sr. 5875V
Allegheny City Guards

[Keith Williams]

Interesting JW, maybe his recipe is printed in an old Skirmish Line issue.

Keith A. Williams
15th. Reg VA Vol Cav

[bobanderson]

I've used a lube based on Neutrogena soap for about 20 years. Here's a screen grab of a post from 3 years ago.

Recipe for N Lube, aka Bob-o-lene, copied from a post of mine from 4 years ago.

Mix 8 ounces each of pure Neatsfoot oil and and beeswax with one bar of Neutrogena soap in a melting pot. When combined, scrape some flakes from a bar of Ivory soap. (That last was given to me care of a chemist who said the soap makes the ingredients stay blended while cooling. Otherwise they will try to separate as they cool.)
Anyways, I made some stick moulds out of pvc pipe and arrow shafts for the core pins. This lets me make lube sticks for my Lubrisizer. I get about 12 sticks out of a double batch, plus I pour the leftover into baby food tubs to use as top cylinder lube for my revolver.

Making your own lube is not for everyone, but this recipe is superior to SPG and anything else I've seen.

[Muley Gil]

Bob, is that 8 ounces by weight or volume?

[bobanderson]

Bob, is that 8 ounces by weight or volume?

Great question. Bothered me, so I weighed 8 liquid ounces of melted beeswax to find out.
Turns out they're the same. Now I use a scale.

[Keith Williams]

I made some Bob-o-lene, it smelled decent and was easy to produce. By volume, it filled 5/8 to 3/4 of a quart sauce pan. I dip then size, unfortunately...I will have to wait until I get my barrel back.

As I said before, options are always good.

Comparing both recipes will be fun.

Thanks Bob.

Keith A. Williams
15th. Reg VA Vol Cav

[Jim Brady Knap's Battery]

I remember Lefty's great advice on BP lube. "If you can't smear it on a Triscuit and eat it it doesn't belong on your bullet."
That advice along with the beeswax, crisco and a touch of olive oil has worked for me on minnies and SB balls for many years. Vary the wax for seasonal temps. Never have a foul and it cleans with water base cleaners.

K.I.S.S!

[Keith Williams]

Bullet lube by Bob Wright, N-SSA Small Arms Committee. 80% pure beeswax with 20% SAE-30 motor oil - highly recommended by Earl Naramore within his book on loading ammunition.

S.L. entry March-April 1978

Keith A. Williams
15th. Reg VA Vol Cav

The day of the cavalry has passed but the dedication, valor, cunning and spirit of that service will live forever. How the color yellow ever became associated with cowardice is vague; it certainly came not from the cavalry "Yellowlegs." - Richard Mann - The Cavalry - S.L. May-June 1976

[Ron Showacre]

Bullet lube by Bob Wright, N-SSA Small Arms Committee. 80% pure beeswax with 20% SAE-30 motor oil - highly recommended by Earl Naramore within his book on loading ammunition.

S.L. entry March-April 1978

Keith A. Williams
15th. Reg VA Vol Cav

The day of the cavalry has passed but the dedication, valor, cunning and spirit of that service will live forever. How the color yellow ever became associated with cowardice is vague; it certainly came not from the cavalry "Yellowlegs." - Richard Mann - The Cavalry - S.L. May-June 1976

asked and answered earlier in thread, just missed it...

[Scooby]

Interesting. I always thought petroleum based ingredients were bad for BP, something about a chemical reaction between the fouling and the petroleum causing a hard goo to form. Live and learn.

[Keith Williams]

Hey Scooby, you may be right about the fouling issue with motor oil...one of the older threads (Another, lube question) to the bottom stats the same problem.

Take care,

Keith A. Williams
15th. Reg VA Vol Cav

Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie? - Josey Wales