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noonanda
08-24-2021, 01:10 PM
It does not list it in the SAC handbook. Is it lumped in with the Armisport 1861 as the only difference is the lockplate, is it listed as an approved Arm under the CS 1855 Richmond or or it not an approved musket at all?


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Muley Gil
08-24-2021, 10:22 PM
It does not list it in the SAC handbook. Is it lumped in with the Armisport 1861 as the only difference is the lockplate, is it listed as an approved Arm under the CS 1855 Richmond or or it not an approved musket at all?


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Yes. The Richmonds are on page 8:

SAC2021.pdf (squarespace.com) (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54db881ce4b0486db510c47b/t/5ff8f512ffea7f059f9c4e7d/1610151186853/SAC2021.pdf)

Lou Lou Lou
08-25-2021, 08:15 AM
Gil, dont see the 1862 he was looking for

Muley Gil
08-25-2021, 10:35 AM
Gil, dont see the 1862 he was looking for

I may be mistaken. I'll send John Holland an e-mail for clarification.

noonanda
08-25-2021, 02:27 PM
I may be mistaken. I'll send John Holland an e-mail for clarification.

Yeah that is what is causing the confusion. I see the CS 1855 Richmond, but the 1862 (which uses a (what looks like a low hump) 1855 lockplate.

noonanda
08-25-2021, 02:42 PM
To muddy the waters even more, Dixie gun works lists it as NSSA approved, but the SAC handbook does not

Bruce Cobb 1723V
08-27-2021, 10:11 AM
YES .... Listed and approved as a CS 1855 Richmond on page 8. I think some would agree removing the words 1855 would fix the issue.

Muley Gil
08-27-2021, 10:46 AM
YES .... Listed and approved as a CS 1855 Richmond on page 8. I think some would agree removing the words 1855 would fix the issue.

Thank you. I was 95% sure that I was correct, but...... I have been wrong before. Just ask my wife!!!! :D

John Holland
08-28-2021, 09:29 AM
To all - I have had some computer issues which have prevented me from replying to this, or anything else for that matter, which also includes Gil's email to me. The Richmond Rifle Musket, as shown in the photo, is approved for use in the N-SSA and is the one indicated in the "Approved Arms List". I understand the confusion regarding the terminology using the "1855" date. This was adopted a long time ago when the discussion was that it should be called a "Richmond M-1855 Rifle Musket" because Richmond used the exact same Harper's Ferry M-1855 Rifle Musket tooling to produce this musket. The tooling, of course, having been captured in the raid to Harper's Ferry in 1861. The tooling was taken from the Harper's Ferry Armory and reinstalled in the Richmond Armory. Since this has now become confusing, I will reword the terminology in the next edition of the "Approved Arms List".

Muley Gil
08-28-2021, 10:49 AM
To all - I have had some computer issues which have prevented me from replying to this, or anything else for that matter, which also includes Gil's email to me. The Richmond Rifle Musket, as shown in the photo, is approved for use in the N-SSA and is the one indicated in the "Approved Arms List". I understand the confusion regarding the terminology using the "1855" date. This was adopted a long time ago when the discussion was that it should be called a "Richmond M-1855 Rifle Musket" because Richmond used the exact same Harper's Ferry M-1855 Rifle Musket tooling to produce this musket. The tooling, of course, having been captured in the raid to Harper's Ferry in 1861. The tooling was taken from the Harper's Ferry Armory and reinstalled in the Richmond Armory. Since this has now become confusing, I will reword the terminology in the next edition of the "Approved Arms List".

I thought you were on vacation in Tahiti or some place else remote! :D

noonanda
08-28-2021, 04:03 PM
To all - I have had some computer issues which have prevented me from replying to this, or anything else for that matter, which also includes Gil's email to me. The Richmond Rifle Musket, as shown in the photo, is approved for use in the N-SSA and is the one indicated in the "Approved Arms List". I understand the confusion regarding the terminology using the "1855" date. This was adopted a long time ago when the discussion was that it should be called a "Richmond M-1855 Rifle Musket" because Richmond used the exact same Harper's Ferry M-1855 Rifle Musket tooling to produce this musket. The tooling, of course, having been captured in the raid to Harper's Ferry in 1861. The tooling was taken from the Harper's Ferry Armory and reinstalled in the Richmond Armory. Since this has now become confusing, I will reword the terminology in the next edition of the "Approved Arms List".

Thanks John, it was confusing. I thought it might covered under the CS Richmond 55, but since it is not listed I wanted to confirm without a doubt.

Maillemaker
08-30-2021, 12:04 AM
Thanks for all your hard work, John!

Steve