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mwampler
05-31-2010, 09:49 PM
Greetings. I am new here, but I purchased my first muzzle loader, a model 1861 enfield, in 1955. I'm still into the sport but now I'm doing F&I. I have twin grandsons who are almost 3 years old and I am trying to put some money away for them to attend college. So I am willing to pass my enfield along to a good home, but I don't know what it is worth. I would say it's in very good shape. There is a sliver of wood 1/8th inch by 1 inch on the lock side missing at the nose cap. There is some rifleing left.the original bayonet is included. I don't know how to post a photo here.
You can contact me at: mwampler@centurytel.net.
I would appreciate any help you can give me.

The rifle is sold. And if you read this posting carefully, you will notice that I was only asking for help in finding out what it might be worth.
I did receive help from two of your NSSA members- for which I am very gratefull.

R. McAuley 3014V
06-02-2010, 12:45 PM
When you say it’s a “model 1861 enfield,” do you mean it is a Pattern 1861 ‘short’ Army rifle (2-band) or simply an 1861-dated Pattern 1853 Enfield (3-band) rifle-musket?

http://www.icollector.com/Enfield-Patte ... t_i8764997 (http://www.icollector.com/Enfield-Pattern-1853-Musket_i8764997)

The Pattern 1861 ‘short’ Army rifle is almost identical to the previous Pattern 1860 Army rifle except it has a front sight made of cast steel instead of iron and Baddeley’s patented lower barrel band. Unlike the Pattern 1860 Army rifle which was manufactured by the private sector (i.e. London, Birmingham, and Liege trades), the Pattern 1861 short rifle was exclusively manufactured by the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield, and virtually all of the Pattern 1861 short rifles were converted to Snider breechloaders

http://www.joesalter.com/detail.php?f_qryitem=4359

Though thousands of Pattern 1860 ‘Short’ Army rifle were similarly converted to Snider, as well as many fitted with a bottom Baddeley band, the Pattern 1860 is visually similar to the earlier Pattern 1856 Army rifle except it has the same heavy 5-grooved barrel and shorter bayonet lug like the Pattern 1858 Navy Rifle. Each of these pattern “short” rifles has a 33” barrel secured to the stock with two barrel bands, typically the Palmer- type screw-clamping bands on the earlier pattern rifles.

http://www.oldsouthantiques.com/os905p1.htm

Currently, the only production replica rifle is the Pattern 1858 Navy rifle (made in Italy), though some replica 'brass-mounted' Navy rifles have been re-manufactured into the 'iron-mounted' Army pattern.

mwampler
06-03-2010, 09:12 AM
This is a 3 band Enfield dated 1861. Sorry for the confusion.

Ken Hansgen, 11094
06-03-2010, 01:06 PM
What's your price for it? (You have a scabbard on the bayonet in the photo--is it too rusty to show?)

mwampler
06-03-2010, 02:42 PM
No the bayonet is not rusty. It has a nice patina like the rest of the rifle but no rust. The scabbard is there to show you it comes with the rifle.My purpose in contacting the NSSA is to get expert help in determining what it is worth, and several people are researching it for me.

darkblade
10-04-2010, 04:03 PM
It's a long rifle.. I like that one..

ken chrestman
10-04-2010, 05:31 PM
Ken is right, the rule is if you are going to post on this site you MUSt include a price. This is not an auction site. Come on follow the rules.

Ken Chrestman,7147V FEC Tennessee

bilge water bob
10-05-2010, 06:50 PM
did he say"free to a good home?" I live at Ozzie and Harriet's.