Navy Arms 1841Mississippi Rfile question

[noonanda]

Just won one that is described as Unfired in original box. Original paperwork show this was purchased in 1974, rifle from the pictures looks amazing. Does anyone skirmish with these and if so how do you like them? I dont know it I will skirmish with it but we shall see.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877069587

(https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877069587) (https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877069587)Another question is what is the difference between this version and a type D.?


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[John Bly]

Lots of people shoot the Mississippi rifle in competition at the fort. That one was made by Bernadelli and has the W on the bolster which indicates a welded bolster. The barrels with the W are approved for skirmishing. Some of the Bernadelli made Mississippi rifles were made with a stock that was shorter on the front end and were not approved. Most people who shoot these modify them with more usable sights. There are variations of the Mississippi rifle that number into the teens. The type D has the solder on 1855 long range rear sight, an 1885 type front sight, a bayonet lug on the right side of the barrel and the shorter front band. I know because that is what I shoot.

[John Bly]

In my opinion the Type E conversion is better. It is basically the same except the rear sight is the 1855 one marked 1-2-3-4-5 and it mounts in the original dovetail at the rear and a screw in front, much easier than trying to solder it in the right place. The rear sight also sits just a little farther toward the muzzle which make it easier on old eyes.

[John Holland]

Respectfully, the "N-SSA Type D" M-1841 Rifle (Mississippi) does have a long range ladder rear sight which is solder mounted to the barrel. However, it is not the Harper's Ferry 1855 Rifle rear sight. The correct sight is the Harper's Ferry experimental ladder sight that is graduated on the sidewall "2,3,4,5".

The ensuing version, known as the "N-SSA Type E", did in fact have the Harper's Ferry 1855 Rifle rear sight, which has sidewall graduations of "1,2,3,4,5". This rear sight is dovetail mounted in the original dovetail slot on the barrel and with a screw mount into the barrel at the front of the sight base.

All of these M-1841 Rifle sight modifications were experimental developments in an attempt to come up with the most efficient design for use in the field. The "N-SSA Type E" rear sight was the final development in long range rear sights, which was in turn adopted for the new Harper's Ferry M-1855 Rifle.

[Eggman]

The 1841 is a great skirmish gun for folks that can't find an Enfield.

[noonanda]

The 1841 is a great skirmish gun for folks that can't find an Enfield. Well hell, Ive got a Euroarms 1853 Enfield :)

[noonanda]

Respectfully, the "N-SSA Type D" M-1841 Rifle (Mississippi) does have a long range ladder rear sight which is solder mounted to the barrel. However, it is not the Harper's Ferry 1855 Rifle rear sight. The correct sight is the Harper's Ferry experimental ladder sight that is graduated on the sidewall "2,3,4,5".

The ensuing version, known as the "N-SSA Type E", did in fact have the Harper's Ferry 1855 Rifle rear sight, which has sidewall graduations of "1,2,3,4,5". This rear sight is dovetail mounted in the original dovetail slot on the barrel and with a screw mount into the barrel at the front of the sight base.

All of these M-1841 Rifle sight modifications were experimental developments in an attempt to come up with the most efficient design for use in the field. The "N-SSA Type E" rear sight was the final development in long range rear sights, which was in turn adopted for the new Harper's Ferry M-1855 Rifle.

John would this be considered the Type E sight?
https://www.ssfirearms.com/proddetail.asp?prod=58S221

[Eggman]

Well hell, Ive got a Euroarms 1853 Enfield :)
Try looking in the back of your wife's broom closet.

[noonanda]

Try looking in the back of your wife's broom closet.
Huh? dont know what you mean.

[Eggman]

Sorry, my impression was you couldn't find it (the Enfield).

[John Bly]

Yes, the one pictured in the S&S catalog appears to the the correct type E sight

[Southron Sr.]

If you find your Enfield stock "too straight," then you will love your Mississippi stock because it has more "drop."

[John Holland]

Noonda - Yes, that is the correct rear sight for the "Type E Mississippi" modification. I don't know why S&S has it listed as a "Springfield" because Springfield never used that particular sight on anything. Thank you for asking.

[Eggman]

I had one for a while. My old eyes could never get used to the sight placement. Another thing to consider, while the Enfield with its .577 bore loves the .575 Lyman Old Style minie, as I recall the Mississippi did not. I'd do some digging on best bullet for this gun. Enfield stocks are skinny because the anemic walnut trees in England don't get enough sun - need a fat stock blank to get that drop.

[Southron Sr.]

I visited the Bernadelli factory in 1976. The company made rifles, shotguns, pistols, submachine guns for the Italian police and, of course Mississippi Rifles. Their machinery was the then latest CNC German machinery.

Unfortunately Bernadelli is now out of business. Their machinery was sold to a Turkish firm that manufactures shotguns.