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Cannonman1
01-18-2020, 10:18 AM
I was wondering if there was anyone out there capable of installing a new .69 cal liner in an original Plymouth Naval rifle.

Thanks
Bill

Bruce Cobb 1723V
01-18-2020, 11:39 AM
Contact Bob Hoyt in Pa

Cannonman1
01-18-2020, 12:02 PM
Thanks for the lead.. I am unable to locate Bob in the membership listing for some reason.. Does anyone have an e-mail they can pass on to me?

Muley Gil
01-18-2020, 02:03 PM
Check this thread:

https://www.n-ssa.net/vbforum/showthread.php/14928-Who-re-lines-barrels?highlight=hoyt+contact+info

Jim Brady Knap's Battery
01-18-2020, 02:39 PM
His shop phone is 717 642 6696 you'll probably have to leave a message.

John Holland
01-18-2020, 04:08 PM
Cannonman1 - Since you are restoring an original rifle, I would be sure to ask Hoyt if he can install the new liner without disturbing the original bayonet lug mount.

Cannonman1
02-07-2020, 07:01 AM
After cleaning, rifling is not all that bad. Bore is better then pic shows .. some pits but not bad. What do you think?9106

Hal
02-07-2020, 07:15 AM
I'd shoot it and see how it groups.

John Holland
02-07-2020, 10:03 AM
I would keep the original bore!

Cannonman1
02-07-2020, 06:30 PM
I am going to try Lyman's big minie with a 65 grain ffg powder charge. Will see if my shoulder holds up.. These rifles are unique in that they are the only rifle produced originally in .69 cal (as a rifle).. and they have a substantial wall thickness. Makes for a stout weapon when shouldered. Makes my .58 Cal Springfield feel like a featherweight. LOL.
Thanks for your input.

Lou Lou Lou
02-07-2020, 08:58 PM
Might get reduce recoil with A lower load of FFFg

gemmer
02-08-2020, 08:04 AM
Might get reduce recoil with A lower load of FFFg
I'd be concerned about my teeth as well my shoulder!

John Holland
02-08-2020, 10:59 AM
Cannonman1 - I don't know your thoughts on shooting these things, some want to replicate everything as "original & authentic" and others are only interested in pure accuracy with target grade projectiles and loads. Just as an FYI, there are original examples of .69 caliber Minnie Balls that weigh much less than the one that Lyman replicated. In fact, all you would have to do is replace the core pin in your mould with a different designed pin. One known original design used a Pritchett type cavity. There is a fellow on FB who is making moulds like that, too.

Lou Lou Lou
02-08-2020, 11:13 AM
Fella on the 14th used to shoot the .69 version on the 315 grain wad cutter. Shot quit well

jim14th
02-08-2020, 12:12 PM
Still shoot it now an then ,Rapine 685500 wadcutter with 52gr 3f. When you miss it's not the rifles fault.

gemmer
02-09-2020, 09:18 AM
Still shoot it now an then ,Rapine 685500 wadcutter with 52gr 3f. When you miss it's not the rifles fault.

I shoot the same one in my Hoyt relined original. Very accurate, moderate recoil. They whistle downrange.

Bruce Cobb 1723V
02-10-2020, 02:08 PM
48 gr of 2 or 3 f and go up from there.........

Cannonman1
02-11-2020, 08:32 AM
48 gr of 2 or 3 f and go up from there.........

That sounds like a plan. I shoot 48 grains of Goex fffg in my .58 and I can basically start with the same powder measure. I don't shoot over 50 yards for target anyway so as long as the charge develops the skirt of the bullet.. easier on the body is better any day of the week. Thanks for your suggestion.

Cannonman1
02-17-2020, 09:28 PM
Looks like 53 grains of fffg is a really good load for this rifle. I shot the Lyman Minie with that charge and the recoil is very manageable and accuracy seems decent at 45 yards. I love the sights.. Didnt shoot paper but plinking targets were hit repeatedly.
It hits hard.. I think it would go through a foot of pine based on what I see. I remember the saying "hits like the broadside of an axe swung by a 7 foot Swede" Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that round.. No Way !! Rifling seems to stabilize the round well and I will do some more testing in the next week. Good start though.