Pedersoli Lorenz? .

[Steve Weems]

I watched a short YouTube video by Capandball on the new Pedersoli Lorenz. Looked good and was curious if anyone heard when they might get in U.S.

[Maillemaker]

I wish I could get Pedersoli guns to shoot the way that guy does!

Holy crap - his first shot was dead center bullseye and he was shooting clover leafs!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faYMbfSg8qE

Steve

[Ron The Old Reb]

Good Way To Lose a Thumb!

[RaiderANV]

He'd get a bunch of warning loading like that on our line. Took cap off and placed on halfcock to load, leaned over barrel, thumbed round big time. He was after accuracy and not safety......

[John Holland]

The N-SSA's rules are unique unto themselves. We shouldn't attack, or criticize, others who have their own methods of doing things. Even the NMLRA's safety rules differ from the N-SSA's requirements.

[Mike McDaniel]

The N-SSA's rules are unique unto themselves. We shouldn't attack, or criticize, others who have their own methods of doing things. Even the NMLRA's safety rules differ from the N-SSA's requirements.
Agree. N-SSA procedures are designed around rapid fire. And the NMLRA having people load even pistols behind the line gives me serious worries...I like to have the pistol, ammo, and everything else parked in front of me.

[RaiderANV]

Understood and not an attack.......jus say'n. Leaning over guns while loading or sticking body parts in front of said gun should never be done with any gun. Maybe he'll see our "constructive criticism" and improve his method? =}

[Ron The Old Reb]

"Looked good and was curious if anyone heard when they might get in U.S."

Did't hear when they will be for sale in the US. But I did hear your going to need a fat pocketbook.

[John Holland]

I agree with Eggman regarding his comments about the NMLRA, and will note that their rules have changed over the years, too, like you can't blow down the barrel anymore after the shot is fired! The gentleman in the video is none other than Balaz Nemeth, a world renowned Hungarian international competitor and the Pedersoli representative in Hungary. What we see in the video is a compilation, with cuts for briefness and continuity. He was obviously slow-firing, but was he wiping between shots with the hammer on half-cock...we don't know! As for pushing the projectile in with his thumb, no different than the NMLRA. Let's visit round ball shooting for a moment. I know there are many of us in the N-SSA who also shoot Kentucky rifles. So how about loading a patched round ball where first you push the ball onto the bore over the patch with your thumb, followed by a short starter usually gripped in one hand while the other smacks the top of the starter to get the tight fitting patch and ball combination into the bore about 2". Followed by the ram rod being grasped by one or usually both hands wrapped around the rod to push the tightly patched ball down onto the powder. This is usually done with quite a bit of exertion, too! In our sport I have seen individuals who were slamming the ram rod into the bore in an attempt to get a stuck Minnie ball down a fouled barrel be wisely instructed by safety officer to ground the arm to be cleared by ordnance staff. You have no idea what the rest of the muzzle loading world thinks about our rapid fire matches, where premature ignition while pouring the powder down the barrel is a not uncommon event! Different sports, different rules, different countries, and neither one should inflict their beliefs upon the other.

[threepdr]

Well said, John! I think Balazs knows his way around a rifle musket.

[Space Cowboy]

Dear All,

I would like to show some more info about the Pedersoli Lorenz. According to Pedersoli the first batch will arrive to IFG in a few weeks. Here are some range tests from the past weeks:

https://youtu.be/mPVrXiUwzC4
And the latest with a .547 light Minié bullet:

https://youtu.be/O6lTE29STmg
Best regards,
Balazs/Space Cowboy/Capandball
ps: no problem about reminding me about safety. Target shooting rules are different from N-SSA rules, but it is never a problem to be more safe. ;)

[Space Cowboy]

Dear All,

I would like to show some more info about the Pedersoli Lorenz. According to Pedersoli the first batch will arrive to IFG in a few weeks. Here are some range tests from the past weeks:

https://youtu.be/mPVrXiUwzC4
And the latest with a .547 light Minié bullet:

https://youtu.be/O6lTE29STmg
Price will be the same as the 1857 Württembergischen.
Best regards,
Balazs/Space Cowboy/Capandball
ps: no problem about reminding me about safety. Target shooting rules are different from N-SSA rules, but it is never a problem to be more safe. ;)

[geezmo]

Balaz,

I'm happy to hear you're not offended by our member's expressions of concern for safety. I think John Holland summed it up pretty well. I always enjoy your videos. Not only the actual shooting, but I find the historical background information to be very interesting and informative. Thank you for your efforts and keep up the good work.

Barry Selzner

[ikesdad]

Will these have walnut or the correct beech stocks ?

[Maillemaker]

This video says "American Walnut":

https://youtu.be/FsIOTicLSZ8

Steve

[ikesdad]

So if that is true, and most in this country want correctness, why pay that price for incorrect wood ?

[Maillemaker]

I believe their Enfield muskets are also made from American Walnut, which is also incorrect. I suspect they simply don't want to try and source period-correct wood for the various kinds of muskets, assuming it's even still available in gunstock sizes anymore. I suspect most people are like me, who can't tell by looking at it what kind of wood it's made from, so physical dimensions are more important than the actual materials used. It's not like the rest of the gun is made from bloomery hearth wrought iron, either. Who knows.

Steve

[Mike McDaniel]

So if that is true, and most in this country want correctness, why pay that price for incorrect wood ?
To get a barrel that will shoot the lights out. Kindly remember that this gun is not aimed at the reenactor market. It's meant as an MLAIC match-grade firearm...and the International target is an unforgiving beast. The 10-ring is the size of the U.S. X-ring.

[ikesdad]

Then I reckon I'll just back off with putting one on my list.

[Maillemaker]

Egg Man, you Forrest Escort guys are just sweating 'cause the 3rd Georgia beat you guys in every event last month! :) :) :)

https://i.imgur.com/UwW5ANkl.png

Steve

[John Holland]

Knowing how competitive those FE boys are I can hardly wait for the results of their next skirmish!

[Ron The Old Reb]

Does the N-SSA allow a Guinness before an event?
As long as you stay on the other side of the creek.

[John Holland]

39.3 USE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES,


b. The consumption of alcoholic beverages by any individual participating in an officially scheduled competitive event at any official skirmish is prohibited during the day on which the event occurs until the individual completes his participation in all such events for that day.

[Southron Sr.]

Here is the page on the DGW website advertising the Pedersoli Lorenz. Note that it is rather pricey:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/9470/category_id/316/product_name/PR3156+PEDERSOLI+LORENZ+RIFLE++PERCUSSION+13.9MM

[John Holland]

Eggman - Oh, I hoped as much, but the person who posted the question is an old time ex-member who left quite a few years ago. I still have my doubts that it may have been a real question hailing back to the old days of the pre-match "Group Tightner"! However, it isn't a bad reminder either way!

[RaiderANV]

Someone gave me a bottle of MD 20/20 KIWI one Nationals telling me it was "the BEST Group Tightener on the planet!" I tried to tell him I don't drink plus I shoot a Maynard. He stuck it in my haver sack at the barn dance anyway. I still have it unopened from decades ago. Any collectors value??? I probably oughta jus ask Knapp's

[John Holland]

PJ - Taking into consideration that the MD 20/20 Kiwi has been out of production for a number of years now, and it is rumored that it was taken out of production in frustration by Mogen David because they couldn't keep up with Knap's consumption of it, I would put a Gold Bow around it and present it to Jim Brady. They may even get master woodworker Tim Lyne to build a Triptych type shrine for it in their pavilion, only to be opened and adored at Nationals!

[RaiderANV]

After having read this article on Knapp's secret to shooting===> MD 20/20 I'm not sure what to think.

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MD 20/20 Kiwi Lemon



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Anyone that has searched the couch cushions for a handful of change knows that boozing on an extreme budget can be a risky proposition. To help you decide how to spend that meager pile of pennies, we've scraped the bottom of the barrel to review some of the cheapest, most face-planting, getcha drunk wines on the market. This week: MD 20/20.
MD 20/20 is a low-end fortified wine affectionately referred to as "Mad Dog." This is undoubtedly due to the fact that it is a vile and hateful wine cooler fit only for the hounds of hell, and really cheap-ass college students.
Bottled by the 20/20 Wine Company out of New York, this concoction is the result of vintners either combining really cheap wine with wholly unnatural fruit flavors, or more likely, disposing of radioactive waste by cutting it with pure grain alcohol in order to turn a quick profit. It comes in every artificial neon color of the rainbow, but unlike its perky giggly cousin, Boone's Farm, this stuff is strictly for the big dogs. And maybe those who have thoroughly exhausted their sense of taste.
The Vintage: MD 20/20, Kiwi Lemon, ABV 13%
(See, swirl, sniff, sip and savor this bounty after the jump)
https://images2.phoenixnewtimes.com/imager/u/original/6518956/kiwilemon_thumb_200x360.jpgKiwi lemon MD 20/20.

Appearance: The green ooze is opaque and slightly cloudy, emitting an otherworldly glow reminiscent of nuclear waste. It looks like the aftermath of a tryst between Slimer and the Incredible Hulk, bottled by a snake oil charlatan as a cure for impotence. The color and glow alone should be enough to deter the casual drinker from consuming this, as it screams biohazard with every oozing neon molecule.

Bouquet: Like most of its bum wine brethren, MD 20/20 smells like rubbing alcohol mixed with a fruit cocktail that was left to rot in the Arizona sun. Despite the branding, no kiwi was detected in the bouquet but unidentifiable citric notes were prominent enough to obscure most of the fetid fruity bile. An interesting earthy smell like clay was also present, although the fumes may have been overpowering my nostrils by this point.

Body: Melting a couple lemon-lime popsicles in a tankard of ethanol would probably result in a less noxious beverage, or at least one without such a strong chemical flavor. After sampling this vintage, I can assure you that no kiwis or tropical fruits of any kind were harmed in the making. It tastes like dirt cheap white table wine mixed with a packet of lemon-lime Kool-aid and left to ferment until it was strong enough to burn the chemical crust off a car battery.

Finish: The finish is not unlike a mild chemical burn, coating the inside of your mouth and coursing up your nose upon swallowing like good horseradish does. It lingers on your palate as a subtle and shameful reminder, mocking, "Hey, don't be mad at the MD, you're the one that made the decision to drink this horse piss." Touche, Mad Dog. Touche.
IF


Pairs with: Any other food-like filler chock full of your daily dose of chemicals and pseudo-vitamins. Cold Chef Boyardee ravioli straight from the can and a block of dry Top Ramen being the shameful top contenders, followed closely by snack cakes that could survive a nuclear meltdown.

Lasting impressions: If nothing else, this cheap wine will put a fire in your belly and keep you warm at night. Unfortunately, that warmth is courtesy of a noxious chemical cocktail that fluoresces an eerie green and will have you mad dogging your neighbor with the evil eye more and more after each swig. Hence the street name.

[Jim Brady Knap's Battery]

All written is true and the things the writer cites is what gives it that allure it always seemed to have when we were picking and singing. Damn few turned it down when the bottle made the rounds of the fire circle. We seem to have gone on the wagon and I haven't seen a bottle of the Dog in a long time. Wisdom comes with age.

[Jim Brady Knap's Battery]

Last Line..........Burma Shave.

[Maillemaker]

Youth is wasted on the young.

Steve