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Maillemaker
11-13-2015, 02:43 PM
Wanted: Primary source for 3rd generation British Enfield cartridge pattern and assy.

I am looking for the (a) primary source for the pattern and assembly instructions for the 3rd pattern of British Enfield cartridge. This is the version with the gummed band connecting the inner and outer wrapper.

If anyone has a citation, I would appreciate it.

Steve

Smosin
11-15-2015, 11:15 AM
Steve, I think it is the LoC dated Feb 21 1859.


http://www.newyorkcivilwar.com/qm/cartridgetubes.pdf

https://archive.org/details/handbookforhyie00buskgoog

http://www.researchvault.co.uk/index.php/britishmilitary/enfield/44-enfieldcartridge?showall=&limitstart=

Maillemaker
11-15-2015, 07:15 PM
Hi Smosin,

What is "LOC"?

I have seen those sources before (except the last one, and it has 502 bad gateway errors when you try to go past page 1).

They do not detail the final 1860 cartridge design. Handbook for Hythe shows the 1859 pattern.

Steve

dennis g
11-16-2015, 07:43 AM
List of Changes.

Maillemaker
11-16-2015, 09:54 AM
Ah, yes, I've seen references to the Lists of Changes!

Steve

Maillemaker
11-16-2015, 10:10 AM
I have ordered List of Changes in British War Material, Vol 1, 1860 - 1886 through inter-library loan.

Steve

Smosin
11-29-2015, 01:20 PM
Try this link:

http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/15308/Enfield-Ammunition-Article#.VlxneNKFOic

Maillemaker
11-29-2015, 08:56 PM
Hi Smosin:

I get an error:

HTTP ERROR 403 Problem accessing /service/home/~/Enfield%20Cartridges.pdf. Reason:
must authenticate

Steve

dbm
11-30-2015, 01:55 AM
I have seen those sources before (except the last one, and it has 502 bad gateway errors when you try to go past page 1).

I've just checked my Enfield Paper Cartridges (http://www.researchvault.co.uk/index.php/britishmilitary/enfield/44-enfieldcartridge) article on the Research Vault site and get no errors(?).

Incase you still get problems, the manufacture details I show are from Handbook for Hythe, so isn't the pattern you want.

David

Maillemaker
11-30-2015, 08:49 AM
I was re-reading Volume 4 of Round Ball to Rimfire and they actually have a lithograph of the final Enfield cartridge pattern reproduced there, but the text is too small to make out the dimensions. However, the original is said to be at the Museum of the Confederacy, so I will make inquiries.

Steve