What Civil War Carbines have automatic cartridge ejectors?

[Bruce Cobb 1723V]

I know, do you? Hint, there are 2 I know of. Ballards are not auto ejectors.

[Tim Lyne]

Bruce:
Triplett and Scott. Mine works wonderful good.
Tim Lyne, Adj.
Knap's Batt.
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[Robt. Propst]

Bruce, I believe the Burnside breech breaks the cartridge seal. If you are looking for a full ejection, perhaps it does not qualify. Regards, Bob

[Eggman]

Spencer and Henry

[ian45662]

Sharps carbine

[j.howardcycles]

Model 1865 Starr cartridge carbine .

[Carolina Reb]

Joslyn M-1862 and M-1864

[jonk]

Well I can tell you that a Smith Pietta loaded with 32 gr of Swiss 3f will blow open, though the case doesn't eject... that's a load I don't shoot out of it. :)

As the responses here show, there are actually a number of them.

[Eggman]

The thread says "Civil War carbines." Want to start over??

[John Holland]

So far the only one I've seen mentioned here that isn't a "Carbine" is the Henry Rifle.

JDH

[Jim Wimbish, 10395]

You guys forgot the Ball repeater. I would include the Ball, Triplett and Scott, and Spencer Carbine. All of these carbines fully eject the cartridge and load a fresh round. By the way the side loading gate on the Ball was used by Winchester on the Model 1866 'Yellow Boy' after they bought Ball.

[Bruce Cobb 1723V]

The Star cartridge carbine sure is a spring loaded one not usually mentioned. A Sharps, not during that war. There is still 1 later one not mentioned. One actually has a spring that kicks it out. Most mentioned so far are mechanical without the use of a spring. Think harder, do some book work.

[ian45662]

I beg to differ sir..... My sharps automatically ejects the paper cartridge out of the muzzle right behind the projectile. It looks kind of like confetti falling to the ground ;)

[Eggman]

Sorry about that. I tend to think of the Henry as a cavalry arm. This caused me to go back to the books. Found the extractor on the Joslyn. Could not find one on the Starr. The Sharps and Starrs were linen firing during the war, at least in my awareness, not needing extractors in the Sharps case until after the war. Question - how did the cartridge Starr extractor work. And were any of the cartridge Starrs actually used during the war. Can you post a schematic,

[Jim Wimbish, 10395]

The Palmer was the first bolt action carbine but I am not sure how it extracts since I have never put a round in it and never will.

[j.howardcycles]

Eggman = The model 1865 Starr cartridge carbines came at the end of the war. In march of 1865 the first 1000 of them went to the ordnance depot in Winchester Va. . I doubt that any had been issued to the troops before the end . But there is always that possibility however small. The federals received 5002 of them in total from Starr.

[Bruce Cobb 1723V]

The Palmer has a spring located about 7 o'clock that is stationary and protrudes thru its action. When you load it the spring is compressed by the bolt riding over it. When you pull it back to load it again the spring/ejector kicks the old case out. The Palmer has both a extractor and ejector. The only Civil war gun I know of that has both. The Starr has an ejector/extractor in one piece. A rod with a head on it is spring loaded and is hidden under the forearm. When the front block fully opens the case is kicked out. Most get confused between what the difference is between the two. In my thinking the extractor pushes / pulls a cartridge out of the chamber mechanically. An auto-ejector kicks the cartridge out and away from the receiver without you having to touch it. So a Sharps and Hankins, Ballard, Warner or a lot of the others have just an extractor.

[Jim Wimbish, 10395]

Bruce,

Thanks for the explanation of how the case is extracted on the Palmer. I suspected it was the missing carbine but wasn't sure about the spring. Both it and the Ball are pretty interesting carbines. With all of the engineering that went into them, I really wonder why they relied on a nub on the hammer face to set off the cartridge. I've seen at least one Palmer that had the nub broken off, making the carbine unusable without replacing the hammer.