DP Mississippi. ?

[MR. GADGET]

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Pedersoli-Mississippi-58-Caliber-Rifle/1223639.uts?No=0&destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2F%2Fblack-powder-accessories%2F_%2FN-1102658%2FNo-0%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_105651180%3FWTpageType%3Dindex%26WTz_ st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNP%26recordsPerPage% 3D18%26infiniteScrollType%3Dproducts this Mississippi legal as is from DP.

[MR. GADGET]

Anyone?

need to know before the run out or go off sale.

[Des]

It is listed in the approved rifles. Small Arms Approval list Section1, page 1, item #10

Des

[MR. GADGET]

10-4

just do not see the bayo lug on it so was.not sure.

[Maillemaker]

The Pedersoli web site says, "N-SSA Approved" and says this about the gun:

Mississippi
It was considered the best looking ordnance rifle of the period. The US 1841 was manufactured at Harpers Ferry from the 1846 to the 1855 originally in .54 caliber, though many were later modified to .58. It was the first US military weapon made with a percussion lock and no provision for a bayonet. Another 75,000 muskets were manufactured by well known companies under government contract (Remington; Robbins & Lawrence; Eli Whitney) They were also produced in limited numbers by Tryon (Philadelphia) and Palmetto Armory (South Carolina). The US 1841 was used by both sides in the US Civil War. The nickname Mississippi Rifle comes from the rifle equipping a regiment in Mississippi during the war with Mexico (1848). The Model US 1841 features polished brass furniture, browned 33” barrel with notched rear sight, case hardened lock and ramrod with brass tip. The lock is nicely marked with the Eagle stamp and “US” in front of the hammer.

Evidently the Mississippi had no bayonet lug.

Steve

[John Bly]

When originally made in .54 caliber they had no bayonet lug. Most of the .58 conversions had some kind of provision for mounting a bayonet. There are something like 16 or so recognized variations of the 1841 rifle by the N-SSA. If it is approved and it seems that it is, then go for it. $699 is a good price for that rifle.

[RaiderANV]

Yeah,,,,,great price. Now go search the 10% discount online code then go buy gift cards off of eBay and save another 20-25%. People sell their gift cards and you usually save 20-25% on the larger amount cards. Then use them and the discount code to order the gun. Works every time. Should save ya anudder $125-150

[MR. GADGET]

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/notizie-armi-dettaglio.asp/l_en/idne_47/silver-line-guns.html

got it today.
Real nice deal and nice gun.
it was marked s201 standard model
I thought they only made the silver line
Anyone know about these.

One thing I want to do is change the rear sight after shooting of corse.
What I was thinking about was a dovetail blade that was taller and able to drill a 50 yard and 100 yard peep.

Any thoughts? What people do with the rear blade?

[R. McAuley 3014V]

Any thoughts? What people do with the rear blade?

If I was going to buy one (and I began skirmishing with one), I would now either buy an original or convert the replica into the altered rifle with long rang backsight and bayonet sword bar.

http://www.collegehillarsenal.com/shop/product.php?productid=754

[MR. GADGET]

I understand what you are saying but I'm not a big fan of the long range sight.
Just like a peep sight.

[Curt]

Hallo!

Side Note: not all of the upgrades to the original configuration M1841 used "long range" type sights. There are also the "short range" rear sight alterations with M1855 SR type with
two leaves.

As some lads do, have done, with the M1855/M1861/ "Zouave" rear sights, they have added peep hole apertures in the leaves or replaced the leaves with mock-ups that have just peeps for 50 and then 100 yards instead.

Curt

[MR. GADGET]

Hallo!

Side Note: not all of the upgrades to the original configuration M1841 used "long range" type sights. There are also the "short range" rear sight alterations with M1855 SR type with
two leaves.

As some lads do, have done, with the M1855/M1861/ "Zouave" rear sights, they have added peep hole apertures in the leaves or replaced the leaves with mock-ups that have just peeps for 50 and then 100 yards instead.

Curt

Cool so I could add a Zouave sight to the rear of it.
would just need to get a card for it.
what version or pattern gun used that and did it have any other changes to do that?

[Des]

You really need to get with someone from the Small Arms Committee. You are about to enter a very confusing area. The Mississippi rifle had a large number of variations and very few involved just adding sights. Most were restrictive as to caliber 58 or 54, sights, bayonet lugs, and the front band. They have the build sheets so you can see what has to be done.

[Curt]

Hallo!

"Cool so I could add a Zouave sight to the rear of it.
would just need to get a card for it.
what version or pattern gun used that and did it have any other changes to do that?"

I was talking about lads who modified their M1861/1863/1864's or Remington M1863 Contract (aka "Zouave") rifles to use peep sight apertures in the rear sight leaves.. and NOT (just) adding a "Zouave" rear sight to a M1841.

As just shared, the various arsenal and contractor versions and variations that were used to update and to try to make the old M1841 Rifle to be "on par" with the M1855 Rifle are "complicated" in that they may involve at times calibre rebored to .58, graduated type rear sight, sometimes new front sight, and a means to attach a bayonet sometimes with a M1855 type stud which sometimes required swapping out the long nose cap/barrel band for a shorter version...

The only quick statement I might would make is that "Zouave" rear sights were not used.

Curt

[ms3635v]

The Drake conversion on the Mississippi uses the 1858 rifle musket 3 leaf sight no dovetail ears showing. Rifle musket front sight, doubles as socket bayonet lug and long front nose band.