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Thread: conical bullets for an 1858 Remington .44 revolver???

  1. conical bullets for an 1858 Remington .44 revolver???

    Does anyone know where I can find conical lead bullets for .44 caliber black powder revolvers such as the 1858 Remington? I fire .451 ball rounds out of mine. Buffalo bullets are getting fewer and further between, I did see some .36 bullets yesterday at Cabela's on clearance, but the .44's were long since gone. I'd appreciate any help offered. Thanks!


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    John Maas is offline
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    Re: conical bullets for an 1858 Remington .44 revolver???

    Try Paul Weber, sutler, at the National. He has a large selection of bullets, including .44 conicals for your Remmy.

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    Thanks John! I took a leap and bought a Lee twin cavity mold #90382. Can't wait to start smelting and casting bullets, then test my workmanship at the range. Not that I needed an excuse, but it does sound acacdemic..."ballistic data gathering" Thanks again!


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    devisser is offline
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    Conical Bullets for C&B revolvers

    Lyman made a mold for cap and ball revolvers many years ago. No 480229. It is a hollow base bullet and I used it in my original Remington revolver and my repro Rogers and Spencer. I had a base plug made for it so I could shoot both hollow base and solid bullets. I did not have to size the billets for the Remington, but I did have to size when using them in the Rogers & Spencer (.452). I am not the greatest revolver shooter in the world, but I found using both pre-greased rounds that they shot decent groups at 25 yards. You do have to remove the cylinder to load these verses using a round ball as they are longer and do not clear the revoler's frame. The conical lyman bullets did seem to shoot better then the round ball, but the conical's were harder to load. I did run the conical bullets through my sizer to lube the solid base bullets and filled the hollow base with lub. THe Lyman were a semi-wad design which did make nice round hold on the target. Have fun and good luck.
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    Steve Weems is offline
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    Eras gone bullets

    Eras Gone Bullets molds duplicate original Johnson &Dow .44 bullets for cap and ball revolvers. Duelist1954 on YouTube has a video showing how to use them in making cartridges. They are also on Facebook and the web.

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    Eras Gone makes a Johnson and Dow .44 and a Colt .44.


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    Rebel Dave is offline
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    You will still have to modify the area under the rammer, to load conicals on the revolver. The Italians don't make them, as the originals in this area. I have done it to all my C&B revolvers. Piettas need the most moding, Ubertis are not that bad. Just take your time and check it a lot. Its easy to take metal off, but it doesn't like to go back on as easy. Using paper cartridges, the mod is most necessary.

    Rebel Dave
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    Jim_Burgess_2078V is offline
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    Conicals in Remington Revolver

    I shoot a Pietta .44 Remington with a Rapine conical which is a copy of the original Colt bullet. The chambers in my cylinder have been reamed slightly which allows me to push the bullet far enough into the chamber and then rotate the chamber under the loading lever for final seating. No modification of the frame is necessary. In the past I have also used the 200 grain Hensley & Gibbs #130 semi-wadcutter bullet. At .452 diameter it was a little loose in my chambers but it would likely work well in unmodified cylinders.

    Jim Burgess, 15th CVI

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