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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderANV View Post
    Have you check the actual size of your bore and the bullet your mold casts John? The bore and molds can vary several thousandths either way of what it's supposed to be. You'd want a bullet .001-.002 under bore size if you want any kind of accuracy.
    The barrel is by Dan Whitacre and mics 0.580". The mould is a Lee and the balls mic 0.577".
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    The barrel is by Dan Whitacre and mics 0.058". The mould is a Lee and the balls mic 0.056".
    Do you mean .580 and .560?

    My Euroarms P1853 has a Whitacre barrel. I size my bullets to .576 to use in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maillemaker View Post
    Do you mean .580 and .560?

    My Euroarms P1853 has a Whitacre barrel. I size my bullets to .576 to use in it.

    Steve
    Getting my zero's in the wrong place today. I corrected it and dug out my down-hole gauges to double check the bore as well.
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    When shooting regular expanding ball bullets, what I do is just size bullets up .001" at a time until one doesn't fit, and then I back off by .001".

    But again, this won't help you for making British Enfield paper-patched bullets - in that case your bullet must be undersized to account for the thickness of the paper patch.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maillemaker View Post
    When shooting regular expanding ball bullets, what I do is just size bullets up .001" at a time until one doesn't fit, and then I back off by .001".

    But again, this won't help you for making British Enfield paper-patched bullets - in that case your bullet must be undersized to account for the thickness of the paper patch.

    Steve
    Steve, I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by "size bullets up". I've sized plenty down over the years when handloading but how do you size one up?
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    John I think is try to say is start with one size then up .001 on the sizer until you get one that will not fit
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    Steve, I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by "size bullets up". I've sized plenty down over the years when handloading but how do you size one up?
    LOL, you have to use the famous "bullet stretcher"!!!

    Jesse is right, what I was trying to say is I will size bullets in .001" increments, until I find one that doesn't fit. Then I go back to the next smallest size that did fit.

    So I'll size bullets, say, in .574, .575, .576, .577, and if .577 doesn't fit, then I go back to .576.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maillemaker View Post
    LOL, you have to use the famous "bullet stretcher"!!!

    Jesse is right, what I was trying to say is I will size bullets in .001" increments, until I find one that doesn't fit. Then I go back to the next smallest size that did fit.

    So I'll size bullets, say, in .574, .575, .576, .577, and if .577 doesn't fit, then I go back to .576.

    Steve
    Yep, I spent the day looking for a bullet stretcher. Midway, Brownells, Dixie...nada. They are at least as scarce as pieces of dowell rod turned to the correct diameter to form paper cartridges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider51 View Post
    Yep, I spent the day looking for a bullet stretcher. Midway, Brownells, Dixie...nada. They are at least as scarce as pieces of dowell rod turned to the correct diameter to form paper cartridges.
    John
    You were looking for the wrong tool. A bullet stretcher makes the bullet LONGER. What you need is a "bullet bumper upper". Look for the one made by Herters.
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    I sure do appreciate all the good advice even if it is a mite confusing. Hope to be able to return the favor someday!
    John

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