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    Want to buy: Armisport 1842 barrel with breech

    Hi all,

    I am looking to buy an Armisport 1842 barrel with breech.

    Let me know if you have one and how much you want for it. Zip code for shipping is 35757.

    Thanks,
    Steve

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    Try Taylor's and Co.

    Steve,
    I bought an Armisport breech from Taylor's and Co. in Winchester, VA when I was building my Macon conversion last year. I know the barrel is available, maybe as a complete assembly. They have all of the parts, usually in stock.
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    Thanks Bob.

    I think I am going to go all-in and just buy a complete Armisport 1842. I will eventually need all the hardware anyway.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maillemaker View Post
    Thanks Bob.

    I think I am going to go all-in and just buy a complete Armisport 1842. I will eventually need all the hardware anyway.

    Steve
    Good idea Steve. It was with an off-the-shelf Armisport that I totally humiliated and embarrassed and mortified you on the 25 yd line at the last Brierfield skirmish.

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    I shoot a stock Armisport! Well, besides the glass bedding, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maillemaker View Post
    I shoot a stock Armisport! Well, besides the glass bedding, anyway.

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    Heh Heh Heh ---- it was that glass bedding done ya in! I mean off the shelf. Didn't even work the trigger pull.

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    Steve,

    You might want to change this advert to a M-1840 H&P barrel because the tang of the breech-plug is a 1/4-inch longer on the M-1840 than the M-1842, so the latter's tang is too short. Apart from the gap it leaves at the stock, the location of the pilot hole for the tang screw on the M-1840 is farther back than on a M-1842, so you will probably be wanting to find an M-1840 H&P barrel or certainly an M-1840 breech-plug because it is more likely to match up with the threads of an original M-1842 barrel than a repro barrel? But that is up to you.
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    Thanks Richard.

    My plan at the moment is to buy a complete Armisport 1842, and use it as the basis for making an M1840 conversion. My plan is to design a new breech identical to the Armisport 1842 breech in external and internal dimensions, except for the bolster, which will be modified to have additional material on the belly to fit into the notch on the M1840 lock plate.

    My hope is to leave the tang geometry alone so that it drops back into the Armisport stock without modification to the stock. If the 1/4" difference in tang length is a deal breaker for N-SSA approval then I'll have to make the tang longer and inlet the stock to accomodate. The tang screw probably cannot be moved as it has to fit with the existing Armisport trigger frame.

    It's good to find out about these subtle differences between the 1840 and 1842!

    Steve

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    The reproduction ArmiSport M-1842 tang will be accepted "as-is" for your project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. McAuley 3014V View Post
    Steve,

    You might want to change this advert to a M-1840 H&P barrel because the tang of the breech-plug is a 1/4-inch longer on the M-1840 than the M-1842, so the latter's tang is too short. Apart from the gap it leaves at the stock, the location of the pilot hole for the tang screw on the M-1840 is farther back than on a M-1842, so you will probably be wanting to find an M-1840 H&P barrel or certainly an M-1840 breech-plug because it is more likely to match up with the threads of an original M-1842 barrel than a repro barrel? But that is up to you.
    I don't know where you got your information on the breechplug difference. I've got 3 original 1835/40 muskets, a Springfield Flinter, a Springfield H&P and a Nippes with the Leman percussion conversion. I compared them to a Springfield 1842 and the breechplugs are the same. The tang screw is in the same place on all of them. Perhaps you have a Harpers Ferry with an 1840's date. Harpers Ferry never made the 1835/40 musket but made the 1816 pattern right up to the 1842 production.

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