Pedersoli has borked their Enfields.

**Maillemaker** · 06-28-2017

So it seems on the latest delivery of Pedersoli Enfields people are receiving they have discovered that Pedersoli has installed a clean-out screw in the bolster:

I emailed them and they responded saying:

Yes, we made the improvement of the clean-out screw in the last production
of these rifles.

Best regards,
Customer service

I wrote them back explaining that this is not an improvement, and in fact if they have changed to a 90-degree fire channel it is distinctly not an improvement.

Does the N-SSA revoke approval if the reproduction begins to deviate from the approved model after production starts?

Steve

**MR. GADGET** · 06-28-2017

They should.
It is not the same.

Touch a file to a 42 smoothbore front sight and you will have problems.....
This should be the same.

**jonk** · 06-28-2017

Not only did they change it, but it looks hideous. Doesn't even look like a civil war era clean out screw.

I don't see that it would be that hard to bring this up to spec, by filling in the hole with a permanent bolt and grinding flush, then re-bluing, but WHY would they do this? The N-SSA might not be the biggest market, but we are a decent chunk of it I'm sure, it's not like millions of people are buying these.

**RaiderANV** · 06-29-2017

Maybe you should post this on the red actors website and see what kinda fallout Pedersoli hears then. Post their phone number and email and more of us will contact them

**Michael Bodner** · 06-29-2017

Recall, the 'clean out' screw is anything but. It is how the drill out the flash channel AFTER the bolster is attached, then 'cap' it with a screw. Pedersoli must have discovered its faster/easier to braze the bolster first then drill it out. I can't say for sure if they changed the angle, however, since machining doesn't care about the angle (although its always easier to drill at 90°).

That's my thoughts...

-Mike

**Maillemaker** · 06-29-2017

Recall, the 'clean out' screw is anything but. It is how the drill out the flash channel AFTER the bolster is attached, then 'cap' it with a screw. Pedersoli must have discovered its faster/easier to braze the bolster first then drill it out. I can't say for sure if they changed the angle, however, since machining doesn't care about the angle (although its always easier to drill at 90°).

Yes, this is what I think they did, too. They figured out it was easier to drill a side channel and cap it off rather than having to drill an off-angle hole through the nipple hole.

I just got another reply from them:

We appreciate that you pay attention to all details.

NSSA re-enactors are often also shooters and when they started complainig being
difficult to clean the rifle, causing misfire during the compeititions, we had to
look for a solution.

It is an additional work that we make to have the clean out screw.

Best regards,

Customer service

My response:

Hi guys,

I've been shooting an Enfield with a custom barrel from Whitacre for 6
years now in N-SSA competition. It has the correct straight-through fire
channel into the bore, like yours used to have. I have yet to have a
misfire with it. And of course the British themselves manufactured
hundreds of thousands of them over decades.

In practice, I find it easier to clean the fire channel with a
straight-through fire channel like the Enfield as opposed to a 90-degree
channel like the 1861 Springfield. With a straight-through fire channel,
you just remove the cone/nipple and then use a pipe cleaner to clean a
single hole. With a 90-degree fire channel, you have to remove the
cleanout screw and the cone/nipple and clean 2 holes instead of 1.

But the bottom line is, your Enfield is no longer a historically correct
replica. I owned 2 of your rifles, the 1853 and 1858. I traded the 1853
for a Pedesoli 1859 Sharps Carbine. But I'll never buy another Pedersoli
Enfield with this defect. It's a real shame after all the efforts you
guys went to to make the Enfield look like a real Type III instead of the
Type IV that Euroarms copied from Parker Hale.

Steve

**R. McAuley 3014V** · 06-29-2017

If you guys are successful in getting Pedersoli to fix this problem and go back to the original vent design, see if they will also agree to produce the 14-inch butt stock like the Third Pattern had rather than the shortened butt-stock of the Fourth Pattern. Good luck.

**Maillemaker** · 06-29-2017

I have discovered that the Parker Hale Volunteer Rifle had a clean-out screw:

Pedersoli just released their version of the Volunteer Rifle.

I cannot figure out of historical volunteer rifles had clean-out screws or not. I have seen some pictures that seem to indicate at least some did.

I bet you Pedersoli is trying to save costs by consolidating tooling.

Steve

**MR. GADGET** · 06-29-2017

Steve

remember your gun you are shooting is not period correct.
What after market barrel, what type sights, what twist and rifling is it.

That is not going to help your fight or work to compare when you are not shooting the same gun that they changed.

Its like calling Ford to complain about your chevy.....

It don't work.