law enforcement hold on flintlock

[Muley Gil]

Wow, this what I was afraid of. NO one seems to know what to do. We have a good gun rights law firm here in CA. Michael & Asscs. I contacted them and they seemed interested. They even had me fax them some info. My contact there hinted my fight might cost more than the $2,000 my guns are worth however. Can you believe it?
I tried calling the DOJ. As is typical with a govern agency, you can't get hold of a live person. They think everything can be answered with their stinking recordings. I even wrote them at the email address they gave. Been two weeks with no reply. I even wrote the National Muzzleloaders Assc, got no response their either. I haven't tried the NRA as yet.
That's interesting about filing a claim with my insurance. The thing is, the thought of losing this 1853 Enfield is driving me nuts. I have 10 years of worth of notes I have compiled with it... different loads, distances yadda, yadda.

Lastly, if anyone here has an 1853 Enfield made by Armisport can you tell me if they put a serial number on yours?

Thanks guys

I had one about 12 years go and it had a serial number.

[Mike McDaniel]

Lastly, if anyone here has an 1853 Enfield made by Armisport can you tell me if they put a serial number on yours?

Thanks guys

On a factory-made repro? There should be a S/N on the barrel, unless someone defarbed it.

[RaiderANV]

Wow, this what I was afraid of. NO one seems to know what to do.

Thanks guys

Actually,,,,,,I told you to call the BATF out there and you didn't so you may want to retract your statement as premature.....

[MR. GADGET]

The repro manufacturers carefully mark their wares so they won't be mistaken for originals; .

Got to call BS to that one.
not at all the reason.

[John Holland]

All ArmiSport muzzle loading arms imported into the United States come in with a manufacturer's serial number.

[Ben Nevlezer]

Just my thought. Not sure how the laws work with serial nos. on antique firearms, but... If a firearm is produced with a perment s/n someplace on it and then it is removed, ground and or polished off, or " defarbed". Wouldn't that be illegal under federal firearms laws?

[Muley Gil]

Just my thought. Not sure how the laws work with serial nos. on antique firearms, but... If a firearm is produced with a perment s/n someplace on it and then it is removed, ground and or polished off, or " defarbed". Wouldn't that be illegal under federal firearms laws?

Yes, that is correct. Removing, altering, etc serial numbers that are on firearms is against Federal law and most state laws as well. Reproduction muzzle loaders ae not considered "firearms" under Federal law. State laws vary.

[tackdriver]

Actually,,,,,,I told you to call the BATF out there and you didn't so you may want to retract your statement as premature.....

I should have mentioned that I thought this was a good idea and worth a shot. It never occurred to me. I have an ATF office real close to me and will go there after the 4th. I was going to wait until Igot the results from them before I posted.

Due to my experiences with other government agencies I do not have high expectations..

Interesting about the Enfield seria; numbers. Unfortunately I am sure that its having one will give them more ammo on its need to be registered.

I'll let you guys know on weds how the AtF went

[Michael Bodner]

You might be pleasantly surprised with ATF. Unlike Law Enforcement that deals with apprehending criminals, ATF (at least the folks you need to talk with) are about Industry Regulation, etc.

Good luck!

-Mike

[MR. GADGET]

Maybe not applicable in this case, but the generic lesson is there. The law enforcement world revolves around serial numbers - CRIMINALS SCRAPE THEM OFF. Ergo there is a reason the repro companies put serial numbers on their guns.

Wrong again......

Go ask them, go ask atf.

They will help you out.